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Carl
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It all comes down to whether I were buying new or used, Howard. There are a number of lightly used Evektors on the market now for under $90k. At that price, they're tempting. And, one should not overlook the economic benefits of fleet consistency (I already have a pretty good inventory of Evektor parts, a good in with the factory, and an excellent supply chain established).Nomore767 wrote:So Paul, can you expand upon your comment regarding adding one to your flight school? Would you prefer one over say another Sport Star?
The composite aircraft not only look sleek, they are much cleaner aerodynamically than metal planes. That's because you can form compound curves more readily in composite than in sheetmetal. As a result, you get a significant reduction in parasitic drag. But, parasitic drag varies directly with airspeed, and given the LSA speed restriction, it never really comes into play.Comparing the RV12 to some of the Euro composite imports ( Sling, Sting, CTLS, Remos GX ), which I have to say 'look' slicker and smoother than the (can I say) 'kit-like' RV12, but also cost a whole lot more, what features and attributes do you like which would make you want to add one to your flight school ? Over, say another type?
Thanks Carl!newamiga wrote:I have flown the Sting Sport, Remos, and RV-12, sat in the Bristell and own a Gobosh 700 (Aero AT-4). I am also building a RV-12. I will tell you that of the ones I have flown besides my own Gobosh, I really liked the RV-12 the best. It flies great and feels very stable in flight. I would say though that sitting in the Bristell you will really like the room in it. I haven't flown one yet but it sure looks nice and is very comfortable to sit in with two "svelte" guysThe only downside on the Bristell is the price tag relative to the RV-12 S-LSA. Either way, you will have a great time at the show. I am hoping for good weather this year. Last year the weather just wasn't nice for the first couple days. I am trying to fly my Gobosh down there from CO via MA. Who says you can't do longer cross countries in LSA's
Carl
I have flown the Bristell, Carl, and its handling is consistent with its looks. It is, frankly, the most comfortable of the dozen LSAs I've flown, and performs like a dream. For a personal aircraft, if money were no object, it would be my hands-down choice. Very solid feel, great numbers, and fit and finish on a par with my old Beechcraft. But just not affordable or practical for a small flight school, where it has to earn its keep.newamiga wrote:. I would say though that sitting in the Bristell you will really like the room in it. I haven't flown one yet but it sure looks nice and is very comfortable to sit in with two "svelte" guysThe only downside on the Bristell is the price tag relative to the RV-12 S-LSA.
We're on the same page. I'd like to see all of the ones mentioned above and while I have flown the P2008, I'm hoping to see an Astore...Nomore767 wrote:Flocker…are you interested in any particular types at Sebring and do you have a short list of possible buys?
For me I'd like to see the RV12, Bristell, Tecnam P2008, Sky Arrow, Sting and Legend Cub.
I'll also stop by the Lockwood booth and talk to the renowned Rotax gurus.
Cheers, Howard.
Can you expand on why you like the RV12 over the other LSA types that you've flown?c162pilot wrote:Howard, I plan to be at expo on Thursday the 16th. I have flown the Sky Arrow, Bristell, Remos GX, Evektor, Tecnam P92 and am fully checked out to fly the C162 but the best experience I have had in a LSA was in the RV12. I have stated previously that the flying qualities of the RV12 match or exceed those of my DA40. I look forward to hearing about your experience after your RV12 demo. Next to the RV12 I liked the Sky Arrow, it reminded me of flying a glider (sail plane) except with an engine, the view from the front seat is spectacular and you feel a bit like a fighter pilot with left hand on throttle and right hand on stick (except for the 90KT cruise speed).
To be honest, I typically see 95k to 98k TAS.c162pilot wrote:Next to the RV12 I liked the Sky Arrow, it reminded me of flying a glider (sail plane) except with an engine, the view from the front seat is spectacular and you feel a bit like a fighter pilot with left hand on throttle and right hand on stick (except for the 90KT cruise speed).
PM SentNomore767 wrote:Flocker,
So how did you like the P2008?
Compared to the C162 or any other LSA that you've flown or looked at?
Just saw this post. I e-mailed Adam this evening. Thanks!Nomore767 wrote:I had an e-mail from Vans who said the demo schedule for the RV12 SLSA on 17th/18th was wide open. I replied to the e-mail and asked for a demo slot on the 17th. I just had a reply saying I'm on the schedule on the 17th. FWIW The guy who contacted me is from RV12 SLSA marketing (Yikes I'm being marketed!)…his name is Adam and can be contacted at:-Flocker wrote:Quick question on flight demos... do they need to be scheduled ahead of time or can we just drop by and go?
[email protected] Adam's cell is 920-216-3255
BTW…I think it's a bit steep having to 'pay' for the demo! Seriously? I replied to Adam to ask about this. If I get a reply I'll post it.
Cheers, Howard.