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New member from Hawaii

Postby jason22 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:41 pm

Hi,

I live on Oahu and having a hard time trying to get my Sport Pilot License. Every place I call only has private pilot or higher. Does anyone know who I can contact or where I can take lessons?

Thanks,

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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby SportPilot » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:48 pm

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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby jason22 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:48 am

I would love to get my private pilot license, but I probably will not be able to fly at night due to color deficiency. I also have type 1 diabetes (insulin dependent). I discussed this with an AME they said I would probably pass the third class medical exam, but I would be required to be exam'ed more often and if my A1C went over 6.5 my license would be suspended. I just want to fly with one other passenger and it is a lot cheaper, so I thought this is the next best thing.

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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby Jack Tyler » Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:28 am

Jason, although Hawaii has both a small in land mass and is also separated into multiple islands with volcanic-origin topography - IOW it's small and unique - your problem is not uncommon in the continental U.S. as well. Despite offering a new class of aircraft and a self-certification medical standard, the SPL has not been uniformly embraced by the flight instruction comment, has the distribution of LSA aircraft reached all parts of the U.S. and the number of SPL issuances has been relatively small (which therefore limits the appeal of offering SPL instruction). You'll find many comments made over the years on this forum that are similar to your own. And a related dilemma is that even in some areas where SPL instruction is offered, the availability of LSA rental aircraft is so thin that having regular access to one can also be a problem.

If you aren't already familiar with these, you might want to do a search on 'GAPPA', the 'EAA AOPA petition' and 'Pilot Bill of Rights 2' to understand the joint EAA/AOPA proposal to the FAA, the FAA's proposed (but still 'secret') NPRM that adjusts the requirements for a 3rd class medical for non-commercial PPL holders, and the current House & Senate bills that are more comprehensive in scope but include elimination of the 3rd class medical for some PPL privileges. No one really knows - yet - what the FAA's draft guidelines say or the likelihood of the PBOR2 bills becoming law in some form. (Although we all surely do have our individual opinions!) One of those two initiatives might provide your pathway to PPL training, depending on the details.

You might want to add your voice to the current proposed legislation. Here is an overview, a video and instructions on how to do so:
http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All- ... on-on-PBR2
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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby Merlinspop » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:14 am

Hi, Jason. See if there are any independent CFIs around with a Cub, Taylorcraft, or Champs around.
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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby dstclair » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:09 am

There are a couple of Flight Design CT (S-LSA) HI-based owners over on ctflier.com that may know of a local school or CFI.
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Re: New member from Hawaii

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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby jason22 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:52 pm

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I will fly someday, not going to give up on this. I'll keep looking around.

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Re: New member from Hawaii

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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby drseti » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:17 pm

Although any CFI can train a Sport Pilot, not all will. The issue us that not all CFIs know the SP rules and requirements. You can do yourself and everyone else a service by educating yourself, and then your CFI if necessary. Buy yourself a copy of the Federal Aviation Regulations, and study FAR Part 61.3xx. Good luck!
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Re: New member from Hawaii

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Re: New member from Hawaii

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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby jason22 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:07 pm

SportPilot wrote:Jason, I'm sure you know buying your own LSA would also be an option. If you had the resources, you could buy an LSA and find a CFI who could train you.


Looking at AeroTrek A220, but I want to find a CFI first.

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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby drseti » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:38 am

I maintain an A220, have flown it, and really like it. It's a good honest trainer. Flies just like the Avid Flyer, on which it is based (and like the KitFox, which was also derived from the Avid). But yes, find the CFI first. Not only must he or she know (or be willing to learn) the SP curriculum, the CFI now needs to be taildragger-competent (many of the younger ones have never even seen a conventional landing gear).
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Re: New member from Hawaii

Postby drseti » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:43 am

SportPilot, to your point, remember that CFIs (regardless of their reading ability) are independent contractors. They do the kinds of training they choose to do. Some specialize in Ercoupes, some train only in Bonanza, and some (who don't believe in SP) choose not to train for that rating.
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