Piper announces new trainers

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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby TimTaylor » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:19 pm

Why does everything here have to be an argument? Forget I even mentioned that I learned to fly in a Champion 7FC. Yes, it was too heavy to be an LSA and yes it had a nose wheel.
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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby Wm.Ince » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:44 pm

TimTaylor wrote:Why does everything here have to be an argument?

Everything here isn’t.
Most of us here get along just fine.
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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby ryoder » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:50 pm

I’m glad to see the light sport and experimental avionics crossing over into GA and light sport having a cost pressure on GA. This Piper is cheap compared to a 172 and it looks like a good deal for a busy school.

My 162 does ok as a trainer but I think the Piper is easier to fly and will take more abuse.

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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby jetcat3 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:38 pm

That comment made me so mad. With his attitude towards the LSA market, it makes me wanna walk into that tent and rip the G5 and G3X touch out of his “new” airplane.

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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby 3Dreaming » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:31 pm

TimTaylor wrote:Why does everything here have to be an argument? Forget I even mentioned that I learned to fly in a Champion 7FC. Yes, it was too heavy to be an LSA and yes it had a nose wheel.


How does whats been said here qualify as an argument?

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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby drseti » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:39 pm

I suggest we all stop arguing about whether this conversation constitutes an argument, before we all start having an argument.
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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby drseti » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:10 am

jetcat3 wrote:That comment made me so mad. With his attitude towards the LSA market,


This wasn't the same CEO who scuttled the PiperSport deal 8 years ago, but with that attitude, he certainly seems to be his predecessor's ideological twin.
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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby jetcat3 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:53 am

This wasn't the same CEO who scuttled the PiperSport deal 8 years ago, but with that attitude, he certainly seems to be his predecessor's ideological twin.


Haha amen. It’s uncalled for, especially with what the LSA market has done to help the Part 23 world through STC.

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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby Wm.Ince » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:45 am

jetcat3 wrote:
. . . . with what the LSA market has done to help the Part 23 world through STC.

Make that “LSA+Experimental market.”
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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby WDD » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:59 pm

And I just read where ATP flight school just bought...... 100 Cessna Skyhawks. Nope, not the 2 (or 3 seat for IFR) Piper.

In a way it makes sense. A 4 place plane has more flexibility than a 2 place plane as it has probably more weight capacity, is larger and doesn't get pushed around as much in wind, etc. Sort of learning to drive using your Mom's minivan. They are easy to fly. When the time comes that they put them into the resale market a 4 place might be more easy to dispose of, esp if it such a popular model as the Skyhawk.

Which is probably why the Cessna 150 - a great plane - isn't the plane of choice for flight schools; it's the 172. So many used Skyhawks have been bought by flight schools in the past 2 years the prices have soared (no pun intended).

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Re: Piper announces new trainers

Postby Wm.Ince » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:36 pm

WDD wrote:And I just read where ATP flight school just bought...... 100 Cessna Skyhawks. Nope, not the 2 (or 3 seat for IFR) Piper.

In a way it makes sense. A 4 place plane has more flexibility than a 2 place plane as it has probably more weight capacity, is larger and doesn't get pushed around as much in wind, etc. Sort of learning to drive using your Mom's minivan. They are easy to fly. When the time comes that they put them into the resale market a 4 place might be more easy to dispose of, esp if it such a popular model as the Skyhawk.

Which is probably why the Cessna 150 - a great plane - isn't the plane of choice for flight schools; it's the 172. So many used Skyhawks have been bought by flight schools in the past 2 years the prices have soared (no pun intended).

That withstanding, UND went with Piper Archer and G1000. Their multi engine training is with Seminoles and G1000.
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