Sport Pilot Talk

I’m waiting for the Sling High Wing TSi...

I wonder if this aircraft is coming to the USA ? I saw these pics earlier this week and think its a pretty sexy high wing.

Jfly67 wrote:I wonder if this aircraft is coming to the USA ? I saw these pics earlier this week and think its a pretty sexy high wing.

I’m pretty sure it will be. The max gross weight matches LSA requirements, and highwing is another market segment for Bristell.

They need a native English speaker to proofread their public notifications that are in English. That was painful to read.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of high-wings. That said, as I get older and less limber, it's becoming increasingly difficult for me to climb up on the wing and into the cockpit of the planes I normally fly. So, it's an attractive option to consider when I find myself an octogenarian invalid (not all that far off...)

IMHO, they are shooting themselves in the foot, with a 600kg MAUW. God only knows what they want for it? Bet it’s north of $210k.

Paul, climbing up on your low wing might just be part of what’s keeping you in such great shape!

I’ve had some physical challenges and people said, “Rich, why don’t you get a high wing? It would be so much easier.”
Yeah... but my favorite place to stand is on that wing!

For me it was like that with horses, manual transmission cars, and a bunch of other hobbies.
The body adapts especially when determination is strong. Try climbing on a horse a few days a week; then that low wing will seem like nothing!

Nothing at all against high wing.
Fly what you love!

Sling 2 Pilot wrote:IMHO, they are shooting themselves in the foot, with a 600kg MAUW. God only knows what they want for it? Bet it’s north of $210k.

600 kg is 1322 lbs. Minus two pounds and it’s an LSA! Plus Europe has many classes of light aircraft. I don’t see how that’s “shooting them in the foot.”

Yeah, many but not all Bristell’s are north of $200k... so are Tecnams and a few others. I believe that Tecnam was over $200k for some models about three years ago!

Don’t forget the 912is 914 and now the 915is are pushing prices up from the ROTAX engine cost.

If you compare Bristell to SportCruiser today (which are running about $150k to $175k) I can see the value of spending the extra money... especially considering the recent production numbers, product refinement, and USA support team. On the other hand, SportCruiser is doing a very nice job at the $150k mark for the training markets and others.

Does anyone need a $200k LSA? Maybe, maybe not... but I do see the value in Bristell for those who are able and willing to spend it!

Here’s what’s going on at Bristell... talk about the manufacturer and new factory starts at about 3:25

https://youtu.be/Tmo3bBaiaA8

These type posts always force me into a wry smile noting the initial section of these forums.... "The new Sport Pilot rule makes flying affordable!"

Not unlike thinking new Driver's License rules make navigating an Aston Martin Vantage down the highways easy - lol Sure they do, step one? Buy an Aston Martin Vantage.

It’s probably been done!

designrs wrote:

Sling 2 Pilot wrote:IMHO, they are shooting themselves in the foot, with a 600kg MAUW. God only knows what they want for it? Bet it’s north of $210k.

600 kg is 1322 lbs. Minus two pounds and it’s an LSA! Plus Europe has many classes of light aircraft. I don’t see how that’s “shooting them in the foot.”

Yeah, many but not all Bristell’s are north of $200k... so are Tecnams and a few others. I believe that Tecnam was over $200k for some models about three years ago!

Don’t forget the 912is 914 and now the 915is are pushing prices up from the ROTAX engine cost.

If you compare Bristell to SportCruiser today (which are running about $150k to $175k) I can see the value of spending the extra money... especially considering the recent production numbers, product refinement, and USA support team. On the other hand, SportCruiser is doing a very nice job at the $150k mark for the training markets and others.

Does anyone need a $200k LSA? Maybe, maybe not... but I do see the value in Bristell for those who are able and willing to spend it!

Think he meant that they are designing a plane at 600 kg gross that will become immediately obsolete when new rules come into play - what they could have done is design for , say 1500-1600 lbs gross and then placard it for 1320 , the way TAF is handling Sling 2 planes.

Warmi wrote:they are designing a plane at 600 kg gross that will become immediately obsolete when new rules come into play -

Probably right - immediately obsolete in 5 to 10 years, when rules that have not yet been settled on work their way through the interminable adoption process. Fortunately, their primary market is Europe, where they know exactly what the rules are...

Good point Paul & Warmi, I wasn’t thinking in terms of future regulations.

... but I bet that plane will be certified in Europe at a higher gross. NOT to imply that changes the law here, but possibly max gross could be legally changed by the manufacturer after new regulations.