How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Talk about airplanes! At last count, there are 39 (and growing) FAA certificated S-LSA (special light sport aircraft). These are factory-built ready to fly airplanes. If you can't afford a factory-built LSA, consider buying an E-LSA kit (experimental LSA - up to 99% complete).

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Re: How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Postby ShawnM » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:46 pm

I can see from the instrument pics that the builder put a lot of time in mounting the Garmin 496. :mrgreen:

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Re: How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Postby Warmi » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:33 pm

ShawnM wrote:I can see from the instrument pics that the builder put a lot of time in mounting the Garmin 496. :mrgreen:


The whole panel looks more like a mockup of a panel rather than an actual panel ... but if it flies true , then does it matter ? :D
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Re: How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Postby Atrosa » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:37 am

In the Ad it states "FAA acknowledged"... What does that mean?

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Postby drseti » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:08 am

Atrosa wrote:In the Ad it states "FAA acknowledged"... What does that mean?


I'm guessing. But the only thing it could mean to me is that someone at FAA acknowledged that if indeed it meets the FAR 1.1 definition of an LSA, then it's an LSA. AFAIK, the FAA doesn't ever verify the performance numbers of an E-AB. That's up to the DAR, and the builder, as measured in Phase 1 flight testing.
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Re: How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Postby 3Dreaming » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:50 am

drseti wrote:
Atrosa wrote:In the Ad it states "FAA acknowledged"... What does that mean?


I'm guessing. But the only thing it could mean to me is that someone at FAA acknowledged that if indeed it meets the FAR 1.1 definition of an LSA, then it's an LSA. AFAIK, the FAA doesn't ever verify the performance numbers of an E-AB. That's up to the DAR, and the builder, as measured in Phase 1 flight testing.


The DAR has nothing to do with establishing the performance numbers of an E-AB aircraft. They simply determine that all of the regulations that are required to be met for the issuance of an airworthiness certificate are met.

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Re: How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Postby TimTaylor » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:08 am

I think that's what Paul said. I'm sure he didn't mean the DAR was out doing flight testing.
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Postby 3Dreaming » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:02 pm

TimTaylor wrote:I think that's what Paul said. I'm sure he didn't mean the DAR was out doing flight testing.


I don't think he meant the DAR was doing the flight testing, but he did imply that the DAR sets performance limitations. His statement was, "the FAA doesn't ever verify the performance numbers of an E-AB. That's up to the DAR, and the builder,". The DAR does not determine performance numbers. That is determined solely by the builder and the test flight program.

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Re: How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Postby drseti » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:26 pm

3Dreaming wrote:The DAR does not determine performance numbers. That is determined solely by the builder and the test flight program.


True. (Although I don't know any builders who actually determined Vh, or for that matter, any CAS, during flight testing).
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Re: How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Postby 3Dreaming » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:26 pm

drseti wrote:
3Dreaming wrote:The DAR does not determine performance numbers. That is determined solely by the builder and the test flight program.


True. (Although I don't know any builders who actually determined Vh, or for that matter, any CAS, during flight testing).


That may be true, and for most airplanes Vh it is not an issue. I do know people who have determined CAS at different speeds using a GPS. While it may not be as accurate as the fancy test probes it is better than nothing.

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Re: How is this an LSA... Not complaining

Postby Scooper » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:11 am

Even IF you were somehow able to magically wrangle the numbers so an RV-6A qualified as an LSA, with an empty weight pushing 1,000 pounds you'd be lucky if you could carry a decent amount of fuel and more than a toothbrush as baggage. Forget carrying a passenger.
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