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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:06 pm
by TimTaylor
I get really tired of people railing against the FAA. If you're fortunate enough to own and fly your own airplane, why not enjoy your blessings? Many people out there can't even afford food. Why should taxpayers pay to give you a rebate? If you can't afford to maintain your airplane, sell it. It just seems that the more some people have, the more they want. I guess that's OK, but don't expect someone else to pay for it.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:26 pm
by TimTaylor

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:50 am
by FastEddieB
Nice, comprehensive link that expands on what I was trying to say. Thanks.

I feel very fortunate that the FAA carved out an exception for Special Light Sport that does make the conversion to Experimental Light Sport straightforward, and barely restricts usage at all, the most important being it can’t be used for rental or flight instruction. Except flight instruction given to the owner, I believe.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:01 am
by drseti
FastEddieB wrote:Except flight instruction given to the owner, I believe.
Eddie,
My impression is that a CFI can give flight instruction to anyone in an ELSA. We just can't charge for it, or for the use of the plane.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:36 am
by FastEddieB
drseti wrote:
FastEddieB wrote:Except flight instruction given to the owner, I believe.
Eddie,
My impression is that a CFI can give flight instruction to anyone in an ELSA. We just can't charge for it, or for the use of the plane.
A fine but fair point. Thanks.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:47 am
by 3Dreaming
FastEddieB wrote:
drseti wrote:
FastEddieB wrote:Except flight instruction given to the owner, I believe.
Eddie,
My impression is that a CFI can give flight instruction to anyone in an ELSA. We just can't charge for it, or for the use of the plane.
A fine but fair point. Thanks.
I think I just saw something in the news about the FAA changing their stance on this. Some ELSA will be allowed to do flight training for hire.

http://inspire.eaa.org/2018/10/25/faa-r ... BIZUZQKyJ9

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:28 am
by Wm.Ince
drseti wrote:My impression is that a CFI can give flight instruction to anyone in an ELSA. We just can't charge for it, or for the use of the plane.
That’s an excellent point.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:50 am
by drseti
3Dreaming wrote: I think I just saw something in the news about the FAA changing their stance on this. Some ELSA will be allowed to do flight training for hire.
The FAA has long issued Letters of Deviation Authority in special cases. This is necessary, for example, to provide gyroplane instruction, since there are no SLSA gyros.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:58 am
by smutny
drseti wrote:
FastEddieB wrote: My impression is that a CFI can give flight instruction to anyone in an ELSA. We just can't charge for it, or for the use of the plane.
But a CFI can give flight instruction to a client that owns an experimental plane and charge for services.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:03 am
by FastEddieB
smutny wrote:
But a CFI can give flight instruction to a client that owns an experimental plane and charge for services.
Yes. I meant to imply that in the way I phrased my post.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:13 pm
by B747
Hi everyone, any update if the Faa has released any new information for changes in the weight restrictions for LSA?
Ty

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:54 pm
by drseti
B747 wrote:Hi everyone, any update if the Faa has released any new information
The FAA had just come off a 5 week shutdown, and is now most likely going into another one of unknown duration. I don't think an LSA NPRM is exactly their top priority. I wouldn't hold your breath.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:36 am
by chicagorandy
IMHO the worst thing about shutdowns is it prevents the government from doing things that affect our lives......it is also the BEST thing about a shutdown.

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:34 am
by Sling 2 Pilot
B747 wrote:Hi everyone, any update if the Faa has released any new information for changes in the weight restrictions for LSA?
Ty
Check back in a year or two...

Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:03 am
by drseti
I just heard this from DAR Mike Huffman:
I’ve not expected an NPRM anytime soon; right after the announcement, I talked with Terry Chasteen who told me it would be 3-4 years.
(Terry is head of the FAA Light Sport program in Kansas City.)