ADSB for Cessna Skycatcher 162

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RBearden56 wrote:Well the link I posted from the Cessna Pilots Association was nothing more than wishful thinking by who ever wrote it. There are steps that can be taken for SLSA aircraft that are orphaned, experimental, or find an existing manufacture or organization that will support ongoing airworthiness for the aircraft. I am at a loss for for that last part. Hey EAA will ups be the orphaned light sport step parents? Cessna has issued the Service Bulletin for ADS-B out and I have a brand new GDL 82 in the box just waiting for the weekend when flying is not so good due to weather.

Now if they will add an ADS-B In using the GDL 39R that interfaces with the GDU 37X I would be set! :P
I also used the GDL-39 for IN. I know the GDU has 3 channels of RS-232 data in/out but I guess Cessna didn't add that into their SB, huh? Too bad it doesn't have bluetooth otherwise you would be all set.
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I just ordered my kit from Yongling for 6040 shipped. Expensive but the kit is required for compliance.
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I also used the GDL-39 for IN. I know the GDU has 3 channels of RS-232 data in/out but I guess Cessna didn't add that into their SB, huh? Too bad it doesn't have bluetooth otherwise you would be all set.
I wonder.....

The 39R is installed so would need manufacturer approval. The portable GDL-39 and it's successor, GDL-50, would not need approval. One could probably secure the GDL-39/50's mount through a 'temporary' method and still be compliant. The question is whether you can plug the serial cable from the GDL to the GDU.
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dstclair wrote:
I wonder.....

The 39R is installed so would need manufacturer approval. The portable GDL-39 and it's successor, GDL-50, would not need approval. One could probably secure the GDL-39/50's mount through a 'temporary' method and still be compliant. The question is whether you can plug the serial cable from the GDL to the GDU.
Correct, the 39R would need to be hardwired into the airplanes wiring harness and you’d need a LOA from any S-LSA aircraft manufacturer.

For the 39 there is no “serial cable” hanging off the unit. There is a bare wire connector that you buy from Garmin (I made mine) that again needs to be integrated into the aircraft wire harness to transmit the serial data to make it work with the GDU unit, a LOA would be needed for this also. The 39 will Bluetooth all this data to any tablet running fore flight or similar or any GPS like the Aera 660 or Aera 796 that is Bluetooth capable, just not the GDU.
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ryoder wrote:I just ordered my kit from Yongling for 6040 shipped. Expensive but the kit is required for compliance.
I hope you are not saying you had to pay $6040 for a GDL-82 that retails for $1795. :shock:
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Yes. It’s the gdl plus installation kit.
It’s reqired for compliance with the SB. It’s the only option for Skycatcher owners.
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ShawnM wrote:
For the 39 there is no “serial cable” hanging off the unit. There is a bare wire connector that you buy from Garmin (I made mine) that again needs to be integrated into the aircraft wire harness to transmit the serial data to make it work with the GDU unit, a LOA would be needed for this also. The 39 will Bluetooth all this data to any tablet running fore flight or similar or any GPS like the Aera 660 or Aera 796 that is Bluetooth capable, just not the GDU.
Yes, I realize a serial cable is required — it’s how I connected up my GDL-39 to my G795. My pondering was whether connecting a serial wire to installed equipment required a LOA.
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dstclair wrote:
ShawnM wrote:
For the 39 there is no “serial cable” hanging off the unit. There is a bare wire connector that you buy from Garmin (I made mine) that again needs to be integrated into the aircraft wire harness to transmit the serial data to make it work with the GDU unit, a LOA would be needed for this also. The 39 will Bluetooth all this data to any tablet running fore flight or similar or any GPS like the Aera 660 or Aera 796 that is Bluetooth capable, just not the GDU.
Yes, I realize a serial cable is required — it’s how I connected up my GDL-39 to my G795. My pondering was whether connecting a serial wire to installed equipment required a LOA.
Technically yes, a LOA would be required because you are modifying the wiring harness from something other than what the factory delivered. Is it ridiculous? Yup, but I didn't make the rules. Did you get an LOA when you did this for your Sting? (I'm assuming we are talking about your last plane)
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ryoder wrote:Yes. It’s the gdl plus installation kit.
It’s reqired for compliance with the SB. It’s the only option for Skycatcher owners.
OMG !!! :shock:

Is the "install kit" made of titanium or gold? I'd love to see what you get for the $4245 premium from Cessna. That's just "plane" robbery and ridiculous.
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ShawnM wrote:
ryoder wrote:Yes. It’s the gdl plus installation kit.
It’s reqired for compliance with the SB. It’s the only option for Skycatcher owners.
OMG !!! :shock:

Is the "install kit" made of titanium or gold? I'd love to see what you get for the $4245 premium from Cessna. That's just "plane" robbery and ridiculous.
Hehehe... if I owned a Cessna 162 I would instantly switch to ELSA - there is nothing to be gained staying LSA - it is a practically an orphaned model anyway.
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ShawnM wrote: Technically yes, a LOA would be required because you are modifying the wiring harness from something other than what the factory delivered. Is it ridiculous? Yup, but I didn't make the rules. Did you get an LOA when you did this for your Sting? (I'm assuming we are talking about your last plane)
I got the functional equivalent. TL updates an approved equipment list every year or so and I got them to add the Garmin GDL-series and all Aeras.
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dstclair wrote:
ShawnM wrote: Technically yes, a LOA would be required because you are modifying the wiring harness from something other than what the factory delivered. Is it ridiculous? Yup, but I didn't make the rules. Did you get an LOA when you did this for your Sting? (I'm assuming we are talking about your last plane)
I got the functional equivalent. TL updates an approved equipment list every year or so and I got them to add the Garmin GDL-series and all Aeras.
What a great aircraft manufacturer to work with. That's the way the should all operate. I just pulled my PAPR report this morning after my flight and it was perfect in every area. Love my GDL-82.
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SLSA has benefits. I’ll stay SLSA until there are good reasons not to. It’s not orphaned.
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I think I'd take it if they paid me $32,500.
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