Because that's how it works in X-Plane?FastEddieB wrote:Why on landing?
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Because that's how it works in X-Plane?FastEddieB wrote:Why on landing?
You have to stop giving advice on how to fly when it is backwards. Right rudder on landings is backwards, most of us trim for left rudder on approach to land and most of us do not land at full power.CTLSi wrote: Right rudder is needed on both takeoff and landing due to these effects.
We do have one guy here that seems to forget to reduce throttle on about half of his landings. The pull up on his go around is quite impressive. I'll ask if he uses right rudder for those approaches, but I bet he doesn't.CharlieTango wrote:You have to stop giving advice on how to fly when it is backwards. Right rudder on landings is backwards, most of us trim for left rudder on approach to land and most of us do not land at full power.CTLSi wrote: Right rudder is needed on both takeoff and landing due to these effects.
Truth is in a CT we use or need left rudder or more left rudder trim for our descent if we want to be coordinated. If the power is reduced or set to idle you need to compensate with left rudder. The actual landing rudder input is dictated by wind direction, if the wind is from the right you need a low right wing and left rudder by touchdown to not side load the gear.roger lee wrote:Hi Ed,
I don't get it? What am I missing?
I have to use right rudder on take off and landings or I yaw to the left. That's with or without throttle use. The CT's here use right rudder to keep straight on landings. The instructors here teach more right rudder on landings. Without right rudder on take off the P factor involvement would be terrible.
Yeah, when I go to idle abeam the numbers, I need *significant* LEFT rudder to stay coordinated, and never need to touch the right rudder again through roll out unless there is a wind.CharlieTango wrote:You have to stop giving advice on how to fly when it is backwards. Right rudder on landings is backwards, most of us trim for left rudder on approach to land and most of us do not land at full power.CTLSi wrote: Right rudder is needed on both takeoff and landing due to these effects.
All phases can be different, are you slipping or crabbing on final? Are you effected by crosswind at touchdown? On rollout are there left turning tendencies that are sometimes greater than right turning weathervaning?roger lee wrote:Hi Ed,
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I have to use right rudder on take off and landings or I yaw to the left. That's with or without throttle use. The CT's here use right rudder to keep straight on landings. The instructors here teach more right rudder on landings...
In the CT because of the sight picture peolpe want to bring the nose over in front of them. Because of this as an instructor I often have to say you need to bring the nose to the right. This is not because of the need for right rudder, but to get the longitudinal axis of the airplane straight.FlyingForFun wrote:I don't know why you would need right rudder during landing unless you are coming in low and slow with lots of power or in a crosswind from the left with your left wind down to keep the nose headed straight ahead.
That may be, but it seems worse with the CT as compared to any other airplane I have flown in the last 30 years.FlyingForFun wrote:That would be pilot error and true of any side by side seating.3Dreaming wrote:In the CT because of the sight picture peolpe want to bring the nose over in front of them. Because of this as an instructor I often have to say you need to bring the nose to the right. This is not because of the need for right rudder, but to get the longitudinal axis of the airplane straight.FlyingForFun wrote:I don't know why you would need right rudder during landing unless you are coming in low and slow with lots of power or in a crosswind from the left with your left wind down to keep the nose headed straight ahead.