Another GA accident at 2L0

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Another GA accident at 2L0

Postby foresterpoole » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:09 pm

Well, I feel like a broken record: two years ago I posted about a fatal accident that occurred the day before my check ride at the airport I fly out of and right in front of me. This time I was not there, it was a plane I flew regularly and folks I know involved. A link below is included for the initial Katheryn's Report. Both pilot and passenger survived with minor injuries, but the plane is most likely a total and judging by the results it muist have been a scary ride to the ground. I assume an investigation will be forthcoming and I don't want to speculate at this point. However, I found out when my phone started ringing and text alerting almost constantly after the news broke. Since it was a plane I fly, I was off of work, and have quite a few pictures of the plane on my Facebook page everyone was concerned it was me. I don't know weather to take that as a compliment they care or wonder if they think I'm that bad of a pilot :roll: So here is my current situation: Everyone I know is urging me to re-evaluate my risk tolerance, which is a nice way of saying questioning my sanity. My wife, who flies with me occasionally and is generally pretty supportive asked if my life insurance was paid up and if it had an aviation exemption in my policy. That was her passive way of saying what everyone else is without sounding overbearing. I have to say it has once again made me question if it is worth it: my insurance has gone up substantially, there is now one less aircraft to rent at the FBO and schedules were already tight with student pilots, rental rates are going up. I can't help but hear the little devil on my shoulder going "do you really think it's a good idea to be taking this risk and burning through this money?"

So all that said, how do you folks who have done this a much longer time than I have face this and manage to convince yourself and/or your loved ones and spouses that this is an acceptable risk for a hobby (yes I know it's statistically less risky than riding a motorcycle, no that argument will not work on my wife)?


http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2019/12/cessna-172-skyhawk-accident-occurred_25.html
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Re: Another GA accident at 2L0

Postby Warmi » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:22 pm

Right there ... literally first entry in Google search...

https://abc30.com/traffic/3-teens-kille ... s/5788051/

There are risks to everything ... if I were to start contemplating every possible scenario that could end with my death ( aka Final Destination ) I wouldn’t leave my bed.
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Re: Another GA accident at 2L0

Postby designrs » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:33 pm

Condolences to all those involved, directly or indirectly (which includes emotionally.)

1) Wait for the facts of this accident, and encourage others to calm their emotions. There is no report yet, and undoubtedly there will be rumors.

2) Ask people who are questioning your flying if they evaluate their life insurance and use of their car when there is an auto accident near home?

3) Your decision to fly is yours alone. Evaluate your risks, skills, personal limits and aeronautical decision making.

One thing I found helpful in a number of potentially “dangerous activities” that I’ve participated in (sports cars, motorcycles, boats, horses, flying and beyond) is to study HOW any WHY people get hurt or killed in those activities; by doing that, I reduce my risks substantially.

After the emotions calm, I recommend the book, The Killing Zone: How and Why Pilots Die, by Paul Craig.

4) Follow logic, reason, facts, statistics and truth... and be honest in evaluating your flying in accordance with the same.

Again, wishing comfort to all those effected by this accident.
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Re: Another GA accident at 2L0

Postby chicagorandy » Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:59 am

As a former Funeral Director/Embalmer (4th Generation) I can 100% GUARANTEE you that death IS coming for you. Death will also 100% ALWAYS find you regardless of where you are or what you are doing. Safe activity, activity with hazards, downright freakin' dangerous activity or in a state of inertia in your bed at home.

THAT is the reality of mortality, but not the emotion surrounding it all. If your loved one is important to you, only YOU can decide the weight and value of their concern vs your choices in discretionary, non-vital amusements and pass-time activities. Aviation is right up there with many of the quite pricey, optional and potentially life threatening hobbies.

Do I scuba dive? Yes. Do I own & ride a motorcycle? Yes. Would I climb a mountain, spelunk or cave dive? Oh hell no!

It's your life to live and you get to have a say in who gets to share it with you……. as do they. But indeed, life itself IS an ultimately fatal situation.
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Re: Another GA accident at 2L0

Postby proemer » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:13 am

Well said... I very much agree.

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Re: Another GA accident at 2L0

Postby designrs » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:54 am

The problem with motorcycles is that so much risk is out of the riders control. If someone rear-ends you at a red light, you’re gone!

The thing about about flying is that most of the risk is under the pilot’s control. I like that!

I rode a Harley for 9 years, but I was very cautious as to when and where I would ride to minimize risk. I even purchased a trailer to transport the bike to fun and safer riding areas.

Here’s my “Midnight Angel.” She was literally half Harley and half Porsche:

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Re: Another GA accident at 2L0

Postby designrs » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:22 am

The thing about extraordinary activities is that they lead to other extraordinary activities. It was riding my motorcycle around the local airport that got me interested in aviation. There is always risk, but the ride (or flight) and life itself should be worth it!

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Re: Another GA accident at 2L0

Postby drseti » Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:30 pm

I want one, Richard! (No, not the motorcycle)
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