Wouldn't it be best if we referred to FAR's more?

[mcurcio1989]

As a new pilot I've noticed that there are a lot of times where I'll read a post (not just here) where someone refers to a regulation or states something as a regulation with no reference to the actual regulation number. After spending so much time reading through the FAR AIM I realized that there were a lot of things that I felt like I had been misguided on by reading a comment or someone stating something as a rule that really wasn't or was a questionable interpretation. I'm sure it is not intentional but we are all subject to forgetting things and odds are unless you are capable of spitting out the reg number along with the text than you haven't actually submitted this to memory. Your summarizing your interpretation stated as a fact. These are clear cut laws that have a big impact on safety and legality for us and we should all be capable of quickly referencing regulations. If not you have no business giving you opinion on them. if someone states something as a rule we should all be able to look it up and verify what they are saying.

Anything but is gossip in an arena that should have no room for it.

There are plenty of people that do post reg numbers and even the text and that is infinitely better both for board members and for anyone who happens to stumble across that post. I'm know that I am by no means the first to say this but I just want to emphasize the importance of it, for new and old pilots alike.

[MrMorden]

As a new pilot I've noticed that there are a lot of times where I'll read a post (not just here) where someone refers to a regulation or states something as a regulation with no reference to the actual regulation number. After spending so much time reading through the FAR AIM I realized that there were a lot of things that I felt like I had been misguided on by reading a comment or someone stating something as a rule that really wasn't or was a questionable interpretation. I'm sure it is not intentional but we are all subject to forgetting things and odds are unless you are capable of spitting out the reg number along with the text than you haven't actually submitted this to memory. Your summarizing your interpretation stated as a fact. These are clear cut laws that have a big impact on safety and legality for us and we should all be capable of quickly referencing regulations. If not you have no business giving you opinion on them. if someone states something as a rule we should all be able to look it up and verify what they are saying.

Anything but is gossip in an arena that should have no room for it.

There are plenty of people that do post reg numbers and even the text and that is infinitely better both for board members and for anyone who happens to stumble across that post. I'm know that I am by no means the first to say this but I just want to emphasize the importance of it, for new and old pilots alike.

Ugh, no. We can refer to FARs when needed to clarify our points, but we all understand and agree on 95% of what is in them, we don't need footnotes and annotations referencing the FARs every time one of us makes a comment that has anything to do with a rule.

I like that this forum is about flying... I'm sure there is an aviation lawyers' forum somewhere that provides what you seek.

[SportPilot]

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[Wm.Ince]

. . . "That's why we need to call out someone for posting total non-sense.". . .

Now who in the heck could that be?

[mcurcio1989]

I guess as long as people get called out that has the same effect. It is definitely very important to do though. First impressions leave a big impact.

[FastEddieB]

Well, when posting relevant FAR's I virtually always include the number.

For instance...

§ 91.13 Careless or reckless operation.
(a) Aircraft operations for the purpose of air navigation. No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another.
(b) Aircraft operations other than for the purpose of air navigation. No person may operate an aircraft, other than for the purpose of air navigation, on any part of the surface of an airport used by aircraft for air commerce (including areas used by those aircraft for receiving or discharging persons or cargo), in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another.

Why would you not? Just makes life easier for someone who might want to "earmark" the FAR for later reference.

[BrianL99]

As a new pilot I've noticed that there are a lot of times where I'll read a post (not just here) where someone refers to a regulation or states something as a regulation with no reference to the actual regulation number. After spending so much time reading through the FAR AIM

Anything but is gossip in an arena that should have no room for it.

There are plenty of people that do post reg numbers and even the text and that is infinitely better both for board members and for anyone who happens to stumble across that post. I'm know that I am by no means the first to say this but I just want to emphasize the importance of it, for new and old pilots alike.

Here you go, you can look up anything you want to verify!

https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publica ... /index.htm

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policie ... gulations/

[rgstubbsjr]

The only FAR you need to memorize is the one that says "ignore all the FARs".
I don't remember which one that is.

[drseti]

I require my students to memorize only one FAR, and that is 91.3. All the rest they should know how to look up when they need them.

Remember that 91.3 is the one in three parts. (a) says it's all up to the PIC. (b), the get-out-of-jail-free card, says you may violate any FAR in an emergency, to the extent necessary to deal with the emergency.

(c) is the one that gets folks into trouble. It says if you invoke (b), you may be required to file a written report. It's distressing how many folks in dire straits fail to declare an emergency when they should, because they don't want to have to comply with 91.3(c).

I teach that it's far better to be safe on the ground filling out reports, than it is to be on the ground in pieces because you failed to declare an emergency when conditions warranted. Besides, in all three cases of declared emergency that I've had, I was never asked to comply with 91.3(c).

[FastEddieB]

Coincidentally, three emergencies for me as well.

And nary a written report.

[drseti]

And nary a written report.

And nary a scratched airplane.