My First Long Flying Trip

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My First Long Flying Trip

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I posted about this in the CT Flier forum, but thought others here might like to hear or comment about this:

This past weekend I made my first really long trip in my CTSW, which incidentally was the first such trip I made in any airplane. The trip was from KWDR (Winder, GA) to KSEF (Sebring, FL). The purpose of the trip was to drop my airplane at Lockwood Aviation for an annual condition inspection, and installation of a Trutrak autopilot. Routing was KWDR -> 15J -> X60 -> KSEF. The total flight was 436nm.

I started with full fuel (34 gallons), far more than needed for the flight. I planned a stop at X60 (Williston, FL) if needed for fuel, bathroom, and food (chosen because there is an on-airport restaurant), about 129nm short of Sebring. My plan was to cruise at 5200rpm burning 5.5gph at 110 knots. Planed flight time was 3:45.

I was going to leave early Friday morning, but while the skies were clear and winds light at my home airport, at Sebring the winds were forecast for 15G25, and those numbers materialized early in the day. That is outside my comfort zone, so I waited until Saturday when winds were forecast to be marginally better, especially early. I got up at 5:30am Saturday to check the weather, and it was calm at the departure end and 6kt at Sebring...off to the airport! The plan was to beat the wind and get off the ground by 6:45-7am. As a bonus, if I got there before noon Lockwood would still be open and the airplane would spend two nights in a nice hangar instead of tied on the ramp.

A comedy of errors and small delays added up, and I didn't end up getting off the ground util just after 8am. Grr. As a result, I decided since I had plenty of fuel I would cruise at 5400rpm instead of 5200rpm, accepting higher fuel burn up to about 6gph (being conservative) for a bit more speed.

Once established at my 5500ft cruise altitude, I decided to try something new: Flight Following. I called Atlanta Approach on 132.475 and got set up as follows:

ME: Atlanta Approach, Flight Design 509CT, request.

ATC: 509CT, go ahead.

ME: Atlanta Approach, Flight Design 509CT is 12 miles south of Monroe at 5500 feet, VFR to Sebring Florida, request flight following.

ATC: Say again type?

ME: Identifier is Foxtrot Delta Charlie Tango.

ATC: Thank you. Squawk 2061. Altimeter 30.21.

ME: 30.21, 509CT.

That was it, easy enough. I got two traffic call outs, one that would have been a very close call if i had not seen it and climbed to get over it, and one that I never saw and was later called as no factor. I got moved around between various frequencies as I went south, handed off from Atlanta to Jacksonville and finally to Orlando. Everybody was very nice and easy to deal with. I got dropped about 60nm from Sebring when they got busy, which was fine. here's the Flight Aware info:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N509CT

I was seeing great speed. At 5400rpm, I was showing 114 knots indicated and 130-135kt GPS ground speed! The air was really smooth at 5500ft and I miust have been getting a push from the wind even though the weather at nearby airports showed a side wind to my path. I made the trip in almost exactly 3:15, a half hour ahead of schedule. I didn't bother stopping in Williston since I was making such good time and was able to hold my bladder that long. ;) Landed with 15ish gallons in the tanks, BTW.

Descending below 4000ft it got very bumpy, and I landed at Sebring on runway 1 to reported winds of 11G18. The landing was no problem, but once I parked I felt the plane rocking and on opening the door found out that the wind was really whipping! I was glad I didn't land an hour or two later after things really heated up and got blowing. The folks at Lockwood helped me get the plane in the hangar and find a hotel to park in for the night.

What a great trip!
Andy Walker
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Andy, it sounds like a great trip (and you seem to have done everything right). Congratulations!

Next year, when it's time for another condition inspection, I suggest you check your charts. Lock Haven is about the same distance for you, in the opposite direction, and (speaking from experience) I have better coffee than Lockwood does! :wink: (There's also a really nice B&B two miles off the end of the runway, and the proprietress serves a great, hot, home-cooked breakfast.)
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drseti wrote:Andy, it sounds like a great trip (and you seem to have done everything right). Congratulations!

Next year, when it's time for another condition inspection, I suggest you check your charts. Lock Haven is about the same distance for you, in the opposite direction, and (speaking from experience) I have better coffee than Lockwood does! :wink: (There's also a really nice B&B two miles off the end of the runway, and the proprietress serves a great, hot, home-cooked breakfast.)
Thanks Paul, I'll look into that next time. I don't know if Lock Haven has better coffee, but I do know it could not possibly be any worse! :shock:

I chose Lockwood because they are the Southeast CT distributor, and since this is the first annual completely under my control, I wanted to make sure it was done by a shop with both Rotax and CT experience to get a good baseline. Next time I'll look around at other options.
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MrMorden wrote:I chose Lockwood because
No "because" required. Phil's crew is great! I've used them myself, for parts, maintenance, and training. (But their coffee should be grounded!)
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drseti wrote:
(But their coffee should be grounded!)[/quote]

I think they have some old salty dogs working there who like the coffee that way. I know one of them was in the 101st Airborne in Viet Nam...
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Really good stuff! I wish more pilots would post their cross country experiences. We non-pilots really enjoy it!!

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David Pavlich wrote:Really good stuff! I wish more pilots would post their cross country experiences. We non-pilots really enjoy it!!

David
Thanks David. I get really excited when I undertake new adventures in my airplane, and really like sharing them.
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Nice write up, for a great flight. I looked at your flight aware data and there were several points where you were going over 160mph! One read 170mph!! Thats awesome!
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Dangeruss wrote:Nice write up, for a great flight. I looked at your flight aware data and there were several points where you were going over 160mph! One read 170mph!! Thats awesome!
I'm a little skeptical of that data. The highest groundspeed my 496 reported was 136 knots, which is 156mph. I guess it's possible I hit above that for *very* brief periods, I'm guessing that's more likely some kind of doppler error in the radar tracking.

No doubt though, things were working in my favor. The Dynon reported the wind was from the side, which matches the forecast winds. No telling how fast I could have gone if I had gotten a really strong push from behind. A couple of weeks ago in a 1000-1300fpm descent from 10,000 feet with a strong tailwind I hit 155 knots groundspeed, with indicated showing 122 knots. That was fun.
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MrMorden wrote:
A couple of weeks ago in a 1000-1300fpm descent from 10,000 feet with a strong tailwind I hit 155 knots groundspeed, with indicated showing 122 knots. That was fun.
You should check the flight tracking data for that one! By the doppler calculations you may have been just shy of mach 1. 8)
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ANDY nice trip write up :) look forward to your next trip

I have seen 176 ground speed at level flight - one heck of a tail wind :mrgreen:
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David wrote:I have seen 176 ground speed at level flight - one heck of a tail wind :mrgreen:
YeeeeeHaaaaw on that ground speed!!!

Keep the trip reports coming. Great reading. Looking forward to dong some long cross-countries!
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designrs wrote:
David wrote:I have seen 176 ground speed at level flight - one heck of a tail wind :mrgreen:
YeeeeeHaaaaw on that ground speed!!!

Keep the trip reports coming. Great reading. Looking forward to dong some long cross-countries!
Rich, that was knots and agree keep the trip report coming.
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Nice trip report. My experience with wind tends to be quite the opposite. I have seen ground speeds of 70 knots with over 40 knots on the nose. It seems my ratio of headwind to tailwind is about 4:1.
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