TL Ultralight Stingsport
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Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
For the red cube installation make sure to follow their instruction and install it dowstream of a gascolator.
Last year when i was installing a new avionics package my mechanic ended up installing it upstream ( right under the fuel selector in the cabin cause it was convenient )and after about 3 hours it got clogged ( because plane was sitting idle for a few months ) and failed - thankfully it failed open (as it was designed to fail) so it just stopped reporting ….
Last year when i was installing a new avionics package my mechanic ended up installing it upstream ( right under the fuel selector in the cabin cause it was convenient )and after about 3 hours it got clogged ( because plane was sitting idle for a few months ) and failed - thankfully it failed open (as it was designed to fail) so it just stopped reporting ….
Flying Sting S4 ( N184WA ) out of Illinois
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
I have talked with a DAR and started the ball rolling to E-LSA.
I sent him pdf's of the logbooks and made an account on AWC.FAA.GOV as he requested.
He also needs to see the weight and balance along with an equipment list.
I now need to acquire the appropriate placards;
EXPERIMANTAL &
“PASSENGER WARNING—THIS AIRCRAFT IS AN EXPERIMENTAL
AIRCRAFT AND DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FEDERAL SAFETY REGULATIONS FOR
STANDARD AIRCRAFT"
For those who have E-LSA'd in the past, please let me know if I'm missing anything
or if you have any suggestions that may help this go as smoothly as possible.
Thanks,
Tim
I sent him pdf's of the logbooks and made an account on AWC.FAA.GOV as he requested.
He also needs to see the weight and balance along with an equipment list.
I now need to acquire the appropriate placards;
EXPERIMANTAL &
“PASSENGER WARNING—THIS AIRCRAFT IS AN EXPERIMENTAL
AIRCRAFT AND DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FEDERAL SAFETY REGULATIONS FOR
STANDARD AIRCRAFT"
For those who have E-LSA'd in the past, please let me know if I'm missing anything
or if you have any suggestions that may help this go as smoothly as possible.
Thanks,
Tim
StingSport N606N E-LSA / Retired Long-distance motorcyclist; IBA #558
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
If you don't have a bunch of paperwork from when the airplane was delivered new, order the CD from the FAA for your airplane.
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
I ordered the CD yesterday.
StingSport N606N E-LSA / Retired Long-distance motorcyclist; IBA #558
Stingsport Wheel Pant Spacer
Fellow Sting owners, I'm looking for pics, dimensions and information for the MLG wheel pant spacer, AMM Fig 7.24.
I'm pretty sure the one I have is not correct and whatever I had on the other side has departed the aircraft.
Thanks
I'm pretty sure the one I have is not correct and whatever I had on the other side has departed the aircraft.
Thanks
StingSport N606N E-LSA / Retired Long-distance motorcyclist; IBA #558
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
Hoping these pics help. I'm no machinist and there is a shoulder machined into one end of the barrel so I attempted to take two pics to show about how much of the barrel is machined.
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2006 Sting Sport SLSA - N686N
PPL-ASEL, LSRM-A, iRMT
2006 Sting Sport SLSA - N686N
PPL-ASEL, LSRM-A, iRMT
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
The pics are great.
I'll get them to my machinist and see what we can come up with.
Thank you!
StingSport N606N E-LSA / Retired Long-distance motorcyclist; IBA #558
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
JJay, thanks again for the pics.
I had a friend make me a couple spacers from Derlin 3/4" round stock.
Perfectly drilled for the 8mm bolts, no slop like my previously installed spacers.
They work great. I installed all fasteners with blue Loktite as recommended in the AMM.
Looks like the previous installer did not.
E-LSA conversion complete.
DAR requested a new W&B as there were many "weight change negligible" entries. 9lbs gained
And I had to do a new Equipment List. DAR $750 W&B $300
I had a friend make me a couple spacers from Derlin 3/4" round stock.
Perfectly drilled for the 8mm bolts, no slop like my previously installed spacers.
They work great. I installed all fasteners with blue Loktite as recommended in the AMM.
Looks like the previous installer did not.
E-LSA conversion complete.
DAR requested a new W&B as there were many "weight change negligible" entries. 9lbs gained
And I had to do a new Equipment List. DAR $750 W&B $300
StingSport N606N E-LSA / Retired Long-distance motorcyclist; IBA #558
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
You're welcome yabiah. You'll need to change the S to and E in your signature line now: "StingSport N606N S-LSA"
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2006 Sting Sport SLSA - N686N
PPL-ASEL, LSRM-A, iRMT
2006 Sting Sport SLSA - N686N
PPL-ASEL, LSRM-A, iRMT
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
I've always wondered how many negligibles it takes to make one gligible.
The opinions posted are those of one CFI, and do not necessarily represent the FAA or its lawyers.
Prof H Paul Shuch
PhD CFII DPE LSRM-A/GL/WS/PPC iRMT
AvSport LLC, KLHV
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Prof H Paul Shuch
PhD CFII DPE LSRM-A/GL/WS/PPC iRMT
AvSport LLC, KLHV
[email protected]
AvSport.org
facebook.com/SportFlying
SportPilotExaminer.US
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
The FSDO guy that took care of my LSRI paperwork, has led me to believe that I cannot sign off maintenance or repairs to my E-LSA.
I do agree that the LSRI allows me to comply with and sign off inspections.
I would also agree that it has nothing to do with the accomplishing of maintenance or repairs.
That being said, I also believe the webinar "LSA and Experimental Maintenance (who can do what to whom)" explains that anyone can signoff minor, major or preventative maintenance on an E-LSA.
I am correct, yes?
From my Airworthiness Cert;
10. An ELSA owner/operator certificated as a repairman for this aircraft under § 65.107, an appropriately rated FAA-certificated mechanic, or an appropriately rated FAA repair station may perform the condition inspection required by these operating limitations.
https://avsport.org/pwrpoint/matrix.pdf
I do agree that the LSRI allows me to comply with and sign off inspections.
I would also agree that it has nothing to do with the accomplishing of maintenance or repairs.
That being said, I also believe the webinar "LSA and Experimental Maintenance (who can do what to whom)" explains that anyone can signoff minor, major or preventative maintenance on an E-LSA.
I am correct, yes?
From my Airworthiness Cert;
10. An ELSA owner/operator certificated as a repairman for this aircraft under § 65.107, an appropriately rated FAA-certificated mechanic, or an appropriately rated FAA repair station may perform the condition inspection required by these operating limitations.
https://avsport.org/pwrpoint/matrix.pdf
StingSport N606N E-LSA / Retired Long-distance motorcyclist; IBA #558
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
He is partly correct. The LSRI doesn't any maintenance privileges, only inspection privileges. That may have been where he was coming from. You are correct in that there are no special certificates required to maintain or repair an aircraft with an experimental airworthiness certificate. I always said that if I could have taught my dog to work on airplanes, she could have done so on an experimental without any supervision.
I had a friend that called the FAA to put his EAB back into phase 1 after a major rebuild from being flipped in the storm at Sun'n Fun several years back. The FAA guy told him you can't work on that. he mentioned that he had the repairman certificate for the airplane and the FAA guy said that is only good for inspection not maintenance. The FAA guy thought an A&P certificate was requited for the repairs and maintenance. The FAA guy got schooled.
I had a friend that called the FAA to put his EAB back into phase 1 after a major rebuild from being flipped in the storm at Sun'n Fun several years back. The FAA guy told him you can't work on that. he mentioned that he had the repairman certificate for the airplane and the FAA guy said that is only good for inspection not maintenance. The FAA guy thought an A&P certificate was requited for the repairs and maintenance. The FAA guy got schooled.
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
According to Advisory Circular 65-32A, Chapter3, 303 b, “a non-certificated person may perform additional maintenance etc”.
So, I think I’m good.
So, I think I’m good.
StingSport N606N E-LSA / Retired Long-distance motorcyclist; IBA #558
Re: TL Ultralight Stingsport
Advisory Circulars are not regulatory. The FAA person's problem is he was siting from CFR 43.3 which says who can perform maintenance, but he forgot to look at CFR 43.1 which shows applicability of part 43. CFR 43.1 says that part does not apply to an ELSA which previously geld a SLSA certificate. That means CFR 43.3 which tells who can work on airplanes does not apply.