Learn the Old Ways

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Re: Learn the Old Ways

Postby Wm.Ince » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:42 pm

Nomore767 wrote:....there's still a well trained pilot.

That's the best safety device in any aircraft.
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Re: Learn the Old Ways

Postby MrMorden » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:11 am

foresterpoole wrote:And that's why I just like steam gauges, if something goes wrong you stand a good chance of still having partial instrumentation....


Another thing I like about steam gauges is "information segregation". Each gauge presents ONE piece of data, without any surrounding data to confuse things. Airspeed here, altitude there, vertical speed over there...each bit of information in it's spot, and you know where to look for exactly what you want.

I have a Dynon D-100 plus backup airspeed and altimeter in my airplane, and I have gotten used to the glass and how to focus on just the information I want. But on a flight review a couple of years ago, as we were taxiing to the runway for departure, my CFI popped the breaker on the Dynon and said "we won't be using that today." I flew the whole flight with just airspeed and altitude backup steam gauges, and I honestly didn't feel like I was missing anything without the glass.
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Re: Learn the Old Ways

Postby TimTaylor » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:09 pm

I also think steam gauges are easier to interpret almost instantaneously. PFD's require more interpretation IMHO.
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Re: Learn the Old Ways

Postby FastEddieB » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:01 pm

TimTaylor wrote:I also think steam gauges are easier to interpret almost instantaneously. PFD's require more interpretation IMHO.


Agree.

If I drift off altitude, I can catch movement of a "steam gauge's" needle with my peripheral vision. Not so obvious on a PFD display.

But it's certainly possible that someone raised on glass displays may see things differently.
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Re: Learn the Old Ways

Postby 3Dreaming » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:26 pm

From what I have heard it is more difficult for someone who learned on glass to fly IFR on steam gauges, rather than the other way around.
From the primary training I do it seems that students do better with their instrument training using glass compared to steam.

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Re: Learn the Old Ways

Postby Jim Hardin » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:40 am

We use the dimmer switch on the glass to 'turn it off' during the initial lessons. Teach the student attitude flying without the distraction of a cockpit video game :)

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Re: Learn the Old Ways

Postby drseti » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:18 am

Last month I presented the EAA webinar "Gauges to Glass - transitioning to 21st Century avionics." The instant replay is available here:

http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=5506222259001
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