Sport Pilot Talk

SportPilot wrote:This is silly. There can be more than one definition as to what is a turn.

If your definition of 'heading' and/or 'turn' does not allow for yaw correction than the definition can be used to make erroneous conclusions. An example would be 'a turn didn't happen because my heading didn't change'

This concept is relevant to this thread specifically in arguing if the flight path changed due to slipping turns or flying sideways.

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I guess I'm late to this thread but.........The Kings have a video of this exercise from behind the plane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQF4QG8xPk

To me this is a great exercise for learning to land. My gripe has been that there is so much to handle especially in a crosswind in those few seconds before touchdown and so little time to learn it. Just a few seconds, then once more around the pattern for just those few seconds of learning.

FastEddieB wrote: And instructors do it all the time, "saving" many a landing that's gone astray by slipping back to the center of the runway.

Eddie, although I know what you're saying, I am a firm believer that the best way for an instructor to save a landing is to command (or execute) a go-around. We need to teach our students that the only conditions under which you HAVE to land are:
(1) you're out of fuel
(2) you're on fire
(3) they're shooting at you

drseti wrote: Eddie, although I know what you're saying, I am a firm believer that the best way for an instructor to save a landing is to command (or execute) a go-around. We need to teach our students that the only conditions under which you HAVE to land are:
(1) you're out of fuel
(2) you're on fire
(3) they're shooting at you

Good points, all.

I guess I'm thinking of a student drifting downwind towards the edge lights, and the instructor taking control and demonstrating the correct application of the controls to get the desired result - which is a return to the runway centerline. Which rings true with me, since I recall my Achilles Heel in learning to fly was under-controlling.

But, yes, the safest thing to do when things are not going as planned is exactly as you outline - go around and try again.

drseti wrote: (3) they're shooting at you

The gunfire is probably coming from the ground. Go around.

MrMorden wrote:

drseti wrote: (3) they're shooting at you

The gunfire is probably coming from the ground. Go around.

Concur . . . . . totally!
Unless the aircraft is disabled, last thing to do is land in the middle of a fire fight.

Were't those folks kind of overthinking things? (I didn't read the whole thread)

I'd uv thought this was the sort of stuff folks do automatically without thinking about it at all.
The same thing can be accomplished with forward slip modulation, albeit with the nose pointed off to the side.