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deltafox · Post by **deltafox** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:36 am

Reference: http://www.boldmethod.com/blog/infograp ... essna-172/

I had an interesting/frustrating conversation recently. It ended with: "Sport Pilots learning to fly an LSA is like going to a community college. Getting a Private Pilot is like going to XXX University." I decided to move on to easier topics like Healthcare and the Russian occupation in the Ukraine. This morning I found the reference site on Facebook and thought to share it.

Jim Stewart · Post by **Jim Stewart** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:10 am

Nah. More like the difference between a driver's license and a driver's license + motorcycle license.

3Dreaming · Post by **3Dreaming** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:57 am

deltafox wrote:Reference: http://www.boldmethod.com/blog/infograp ... essna-172/

I had an interesting/frustrating conversation recently. It ended with: "Sport Pilots learning to fly an LSA is like going to a community college. Getting a Private Pilot is like going to XXX University." I decided to move on to easier topics like Healthcare and the Russian occupation in the Ukraine. This morning I found the reference site on Facebook and thought to share it.

Sounds like someone who has formed an opinion without knowing the facts. If you factor in the differences in required training between sport and private you would find that there is more time allowed for basic piloting skills for the sport pilot. This is based on the minimum required training, even though the sport pilot only needs 15 hours of instruction instead of the 20 for the private.

N918KT · Post by **N918KT** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:41 pm

deltafox wrote:Reference: http://www.boldmethod.com/blog/infograp ... essna-172/

I had an interesting/frustrating conversation recently. It ended with: "Sport Pilots learning to fly an LSA is like going to a community college. Getting a Private Pilot is like going to XXX University." I decided to move on to easier topics like Healthcare and the Russian occupation in the Ukraine. This morning I found the reference site on Facebook and thought to share it.

I always compared the FAA pilot certificates to the different types of college degrees.

Sport = Associate Degree

Private = Bachelors Degree

Commercial = Master Degree

ATP = Doctorate Degree or PhD

drseti · Post by **drseti** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:50 pm

And don't forget, Kevin:

CFI = teaching credential

N918KT · Post by **N918KT** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:28 pm

Ultralight/Part 103 = High School Diploma/GED

Student Pilot Certificate = Undergraduate Certificate

MovingOn · Post by **MovingOn** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:17 pm

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deltafox · Post by **deltafox** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:02 pm

Nope. Not buying the analogy. Skilled pilot = Skilled pilot. Given the same conditions I don't think an ATP can fly a Cub any better than a Sport Pilot. We've all read stories about a youngster winning the Spot Landing Contest at the local fly-in, flying against "seasoned" pilots. I get it that the ATP has a broader environment, but some of that can be discarded when he straps into an LSA.

The referenced site really speaks to the "classrooom". Would you rather fly a modern (Technically Advanced) LSA or a 1960's Cessna truck? The "Community College" seems to be offering a much more complete classroom than the typical "University" airplane.

I guess the thing that toasted me was the arrogant disdain for the LSA/Sport Pilot. Seems like he was attempting to perpetuate the old caste system. "How many hours do YOU have?!?", rather than "What have you experienced in your airplane?".

MovingOn · Post by **MovingOn** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:17 pm

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deltafox · Post by **deltafox** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:58 pm

I care.

...because I believe that LSA has the potential to improve the training environment for General Aviation. I believe the aircraft are cost effective and a joy to fly. I am trying to start a business using this belief as its premise. I don't understand why people prefer older more expensive aircraft for their training.

Why do you prefer a C182?

MovingOn · Post by **MovingOn** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:05 pm

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drseti · Post by **drseti** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:03 pm

And if I still had a medical, I probably wouldn't have discovered the great training (and business) opportunity afforded by the Sport Pilot rating.

MovingOn · Post by **MovingOn** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:34 pm

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designrs · Post by **designrs** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:30 pm

MovingOn wrote:Actually, I would rather fly a 1960's Cessna 182 than any LSA made, but that's a whole other topic of discussion. One of my favorite planes to fly was a C182RG. Basically, people bad mouth stuff because they don't understand it or have never tried it or tried it and failed, etc. Again, who cares?

I have no interest in flying an old "minivan" (and yes I have tried them). That's why I found LSA appealing. An Extra would be interesting though!

MovingOn · Post by **MovingOn** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:35 pm

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