Spin Training.

[designrs]

Here's a pretty interesting spin recovery article and video:
http://axenty.com/blog/training/recovering-from-a-spin/

[Kangajab]

From what I have been told, the makers of one of the newer aircraft fitted with a BRS, were encouraged to do so by governing bodies, because they didn't recover easily from a spin. Keep in mind, the chances are you will likely wreck your aircraft from the hard landing a BRS will provide, plus possible spinal injuries. So I'd want to know how to recover from a spin, before opting for a BRS solution.

[MrMorden]

From what I have been told, the makers of one of the newer aircraft fitted with a BRS, were encouraged to do so by governing bodies, because they didn't recover easily from a spin. Keep in mind, the chances are you will likely wreck your aircraft from the hard landing a BRS will provide, plus possible spinal injuries. So I'd want to know how to recover from a spin, before opting for a BRS solution.

If a spin is recoverable, the pilot should recover. If not, or the spin is at low altitude, the BRS is an excellent option.

While spinal injuries are always a concern in a crash, I am not aware of significant numbers of spinal injuries in BRS deployments.

[designrs]

I believe that Cirrus has impact absorbing seat cushions to help against spinal injury. Accordingly, you're not supposed to step on the seats as they are crushable. It would be nice if more BRS equipped planes had that seat technology as well.

[MrMorden]

I believe that Cirrus has impact absorbing seat cushions to help against spinal injury. Accordingly, you're not supposed to step on the seats as they are crushable. It would be nice if more BRS equipped planes had that seat technology as well.

The CT seats are "suspended" by a fabric strap and a couple of pins. I'm pretty sure in a hard belly impact like a landing under the BRS the seats would have a lot of give to them. Plus the landing gear on both the CT and the Cirrus will collapse and eat up a lot of the impact force. Unless the landing is on water.

[BrianL99]

From what I have been told, the makers of one of the newer aircraft fitted with a BRS, were encouraged to do so by governing bodies, because they didn't recover easily from a spin. Keep in mind, the chances are you will likely wreck your aircraft from the hard landing a BRS will provide, plus possible spinal injuries. So I'd want to know how to recover from a spin, before opting for a BRS solution.

The second you consider pulling the parachute, is the same instant you decide your airplane now belongs to the insurance company.

[CTLSi]

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[drseti]

The second you consider pulling the parachute, is the same instant you decide your airplane now belongs to the insurance company.

Actually, parachute or not, the second you step into the airplane, it belongs to the insurance company -- you're merely borrowing it from them.

[MrMorden]

From what I have been told, the makers of one of the newer aircraft fitted with a BRS, were encouraged to do so by governing bodies, because they didn't recover easily from a spin. Keep in mind, the chances are you will likely wreck your aircraft from the hard landing a BRS will provide, plus possible spinal injuries. So I'd want to know how to recover from a spin, before opting for a BRS solution.

The second you consider pulling the parachute, is the same instant you decide your airplane now belongs to the insurance company.

My CTSW instructor calls the BRS handle the "ownership transfer handle".

[designrs]

My CTSW instructor calls the BRS handle the "ownership transfer handle".

The euphemism is amusing of course, but seriously, aircraft ownership and economics should not be a factor in the deciding to pull the chute or not.

What SHOULD the pilot be thinking?
Of course there are the "no brainier" situations:
1) uncontrollable plane
2) incapacitated pilot
3) zero visibility forced landing

How much risk am I taking by landing this here myself vs. the uncontrolled chute... and a totaled airplane? (See you still find yourself saying it.)

Maybe a better question is:

Will I be more likely to live and be less injured?

[drseti]

Maybe a better question is:

Will I be more likely to live and be less injured?

And an even better question is:

Will my passengers be more likely to live and be less injured?

[dstclair]

I get a little concerned when I read posts about an emergency situation and damage to the aircraft becomes part of the equation. IMHO the choice is always the option that has the lowest risk for injury for the occupants and aircraft damage is of zero consideration.

[BrianL99]

My CTSW instructor calls the BRS handle the "ownership transfer handle".

How much risk am I taking by landing this here myself vs. the uncontrolled chute.

If you have any ability to control the airplane, you will most likely maintain most of that control after a chute pull.

[3Dreaming]

My CTSW instructor calls the BRS handle the "ownership transfer handle".

How much risk am I taking by landing this here myself vs. the uncontrolled chute.

If you have any ability to control the airplane, you will most likely maintain most of that control after a chute pull.

I think you got some bad information. Control of the airplane comes from air flowing over the wings and control surfaces. When your under canopy with a chute pull you no longer have the required air flowing over the control surfaces, meaning you have no control. The canopy that is used for a BRS is a round canopy, and has no means of steering. This is unlike the chutes you see people jump with. With the chute pulled you are at the mercy of the wind.