Buying your own plane for training

[drseti]

In the case of my 1950 MG TD (and, I imagine, some antique planes), the issue was decades of neglect by prior owners.

[Jack Tyler]

Altho' my aircraft are a generation newer, they aren't spring chickens and that's been my experience as well. I've owned two Grumman aircraft, built in 1975 and 1979. Neither has suffered any major airframe issues nor unusual levels of maintenance. As I mentioned in another thread, for some years now I have flown my Tiger literally across the country multiple times each year, do a lot of regional flying on behalf of the RAF, and regularly use unimproved airfields. Except for replacement of time-limited accessories (e.g. a vacuum pump) & regular maintenance, I've had one slight leak in a brake line in 4 years.

But I don't want to paint with the same broad brush as those claiming 'legacy' aircraft are typically maintenance hogs, so note Paul's qualifying comment above. Both my aircraft were well cared for, the Tiger has always been hangared and was epoxy primer'd at the Gulfstream factory where it was built, I have complete engine instrumentation, and its reliability has a lot to do with its care by a Grumman specialist. There just isn't any 'free lunch' available IME when it comes to aircraft reliability, and it grieves me to see so many aircraft underutilized and left to rot on airport ramps.

[rcpilot]

Lesson#3: Emergency procedures. What to do when your engine quits, if you need to make an emergency descent and what to do if there is a fire, etc. My instructor uses A-B-C-D-E; Airspeed, pitch for best glide. Best place to land, preferable no people, firm surface, no obstructions. Checklist, use the engine restart checklist (memorize it). Declare an emergency, call mayday (who, what, where) on 121.5, squawk 7700. Execute the landing, setup for a good approach, turn everything off, unlatch the canopy and land the plane. As always, the instructor demonstrated first. I'm pretty sure there are a few people who were at Smithpoint Park who were wondering just what we were doing. He picked a parking lot as his landing site and down to about 500 feet looked like he was actually going to do it. So I practiced this several times and we also did emergency descents including using a forward slip. I'm beginning to realize that I can put the plane in a steep bank and do other maneuvers and the wings won't fall off and we won't plummet to the Earth. Which is a good thing because the next lesson is ground reference maneuvers and performance maneuvers so we're going to be doing steep turns. I'm also getting better at holding altitude and airspeed. Most importantly, I'm having fun!

[CTLSi]

Lesson#3: Emergency procedures. What to do when your engine quits, if you need to make an emergency descent and what to do if there is a fire, etc. My instructor uses A-B-C-D-E; Airspeed, pitch for best glide. Best place to land, preferable no people, firm surface, no obstructions. Checklist, use the engine restart checklist (memorize it). Declare an emergency, call mayday (who, what, where) on 121.5, squawk 7700. Execute the landing, setup for a good approach, turn everything off, unlatch the canopy and land the plane. As always, the instructor demonstrated first. I'm pretty sure there are a few people who were at Smithpoint Park who were wondering just what we were doing. He picked a parking lot as his landing site and down to about 500 feet looked like he was actually going to do it. So I practiced this several times and we also did emergency descents including using a forward slip. I'm beginning to realize that I can put the plane in a steep bank and do other maneuvers and the wings won't fall off and we won't plummet to the Earth. Which is a good thing because the next lesson is ground reference maneuvers and performance maneuvers so we're going to be doing steep turns. I'm also getting better at holding altitude and airspeed. Most importantly, I'm having fun!

You will have to answer on your checkride what to do in an emergency. But in real life, buy a Flight Design and use the chute...save yourself and your passenger the risk of death.

[SportPilot]

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[Nomore767]

Lesson#3: Emergency procedures. What to do when your engine quits, if you need to make an emergency descent and what to do if there is a fire, etc. My instructor uses A-B-C-D-E; Airspeed, pitch for best glide. Best place to land, preferable no people, firm surface, no obstructions. Checklist, use the engine restart checklist (memorize it). Declare an emergency, call mayday (who, what, where) on 121.5, squawk 7700. Execute the landing, setup for a good approach, turn everything off, unlatch the canopy and land the plane. As always, the instructor demonstrated first. I'm pretty sure there are a few people who were at Smithpoint Park who were wondering just what we were doing. He picked a parking lot as his landing site and down to about 500 feet looked like he was actually going to do it. So I practiced this several times and we also did emergency descents including using a forward slip. I'm beginning to realize that I can put the plane in a steep bank and do other maneuvers and the wings won't fall off and we won't plummet to the Earth. Which is a good thing because the next lesson is ground reference maneuvers and performance maneuvers so we're going to be doing steep turns. I'm also getting better at holding altitude and airspeed. Most importantly, I'm having fun!

Here's the important thing, you're having flight instruction from a 'qualified CFI' and NOT from an inexperienced low-time newcomer like Cecil (CTLSi). He might mean well in his own mind, but frankly his comments won't serve you well, so I'd recommend following the instructional flying lessons that your CFI is providing you, and ignoring the nonsensical rubbish he posted.

Sounds like your instructor is helping you gain confidence as well as develop your skills to the level required by the Examiner. This is what you're paying for!
If it's fun for you it's also fun to read about how someone is really enjoying learning to fly!

It's very satisfying for an instructor to teach a new student and literally see them learn to fly and become a pilot. How do i know? I have close to 2000 hours of instruction given as a CFI/CFII

[CTLSi]

I am bitter and need to diss others because I got old and lost my medical and have to fly as a sport pilot and use rentals now...

The parachute is the best piece of safety equipment made. New flyers should be made aware of the advances in aviation (all airframe parachutes and all glass cockpits with GPS navigation)...and not be left to a midair and an engine fail with no way out.

The best of the breed and new advanced designs and the best selling GA aircraft, Cirrus and Flight Design have parachutes and glass...

[SportPilot]

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[Wm.Ince]

. . . "buy a Flight Design and use the chute...save yourself and your passenger the risk of death." . . .

bullshit.

x2

[Nomore767]

I am bitter and need to diss others because I got old and lost my medical and have to fly as a sport pilot and use rentals now...

The parachute is the best piece of safety equipment made. New flyers should be made aware of the advances in aviation (all airframe parachutes and all glass cockpits with GPS navigation)...and not be left to a midair and an engine fail with no way out.

The best of the breed and new advanced designs and the best selling GA aircraft, Cirrus and Flight Design have parachutes and glass...

Paul,

Please call me personally as the above is TOTALLY unacceptable and this poster is writing as if I made these comments and I did NOT!!

[rcpilot]

You will have to answer on your checkride what to do in an emergency. But in real life, buy a Flight Design and use the chute...save yourself and your passenger the risk of death.

Funny you should mention that. The previous owner of my plane bought a CTSW because his wife would not fly in a plane without a chute. He misses the Zodiac. Personally, I think if you rely on a chute, you may fall into a false sense of security. I'd rather prepare and be prepared for the worse and have the skills to deal with it.

[Nomore767]

I am bitter and need to diss others because I got old and lost my medical and have to fly as a sport pilot and use rentals now...

The parachute is the best piece of safety equipment made. New flyers should be made aware of the advances in aviation (all airframe parachutes and all glass cockpits with GPS navigation)...and not be left to a midair and an engine fail with no way out.

The best of the breed and new advanced designs and the best selling GA aircraft, Cirrus and Flight Design have parachutes and glass...

Paul,

Please call me personally as the above is TOTALLY unacceptable and this poster is writing as if I made these comments and I did NOT!!

I've just spoken with Paul and am in contact with the site owner regarding this issue.

[Nomore767]

You will have to answer on your checkride what to do in an emergency. But in real life, buy a Flight Design and use the chute...save yourself and your passenger the risk of death.

Funny you should mention that. The previous owner of my plane bought a CTSW because his wife would not fly in a plane without a chute. He misses the Zodiac. Personally, I think if you rely on a chute, you may fall into a false sense of security. I'd rather prepare and be prepared for the worse and have the skills to deal with it.

Well, good for you! You're going to make it as a pilot, aviator, and airman with that attitude.

[SportPilot]

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[SportPilot]

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