3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby joey4420 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:03 pm

drseti wrote:Part 43 specifically says a PP or above can perform preventive maintenance (a specific list of tasks is provided) on a certified aircraft he or she owns.


Then I guess I better have my A&P IA friend sign off my oil changes from now on.
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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby TimTaylor » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:07 pm

No, you better have him DO your oil changes. Is there a regulation that allows Sport Pilots to work on standard certificated aircraft? IDK.
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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby joey4420 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:36 pm

TimTaylor wrote:No, you better have him DO your oil changes. Is there a regulation that allows Sport Pilots to work on standard certificated aircraft? IDK.


I know for my annual I did 90% of the work and he inspected and signed it off. He said that he can designate anyone to do the work as long as he inspects it.
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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby TimTaylor » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:07 pm

As I read the regulations, you can assist in certain maintenance items under the direct supervision of an A&P but you cannot do any of the annual inspection.
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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby 3Dreaming » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:26 pm

TimTaylor wrote:As I read the regulations, you can assist in certain maintenance items under the direct supervision of an A&P but you cannot do any of the annual inspection.


That is right. However when you talk about having a annual inspection done only a small part of it is actually inspecting.

For example checking the wheel bearings. Removing the wheel, disassembly, and cleaning are maintenance. Then you inspect the wheel, wheel bearing, and races. Greasing the bearings and reassembly are maintenance. Checking after reassembly is inspection.

An IA must first be a A&P. When doing a annual inspection all of the wrench turning and getting the hands dirty is maintenance, and done under the A&P hat. The actual looking at the parts and inspecting them is under the IA hat. I suspect at least 90% of a annual inspection is actually maintenance, which the A&P can supervise an other person doing the work. That is provided the A&P has performed the work before.

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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby kennyc » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:39 am

Hello, my first post!

As one that began their private pilot training many years ago and got about 80 percent through (life happened and ended my training), recently I thought about returning to flying, but at my age and for my mission/purpose, I decided that Sport Pilot would be the route to go. Therein began my trouble. There are many airports surrounding me within a thirty mile radius that have training facilities, however there are zero that offer Sport Pilot training. I've talked to six CFI's and they have all said the same thing, they have no problem taking me on as a student for Sport Pilot, but, they do not have access to an aircraft that qualifies as a LSA. The closest training that I have been able to find is approximately 150 miles away.

With that being said, should an increase in gross result in the encapsulation of some common trainers used in PPL, that would open the door for a lot of people to be able to obtain Sport Pilot training locally or within a reasonable distance. I think this is a positive direction should it materialize.

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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby Warmi » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:24 am

What will truly open the door would be taking the FAA out of the equation for non-commercial GA , or at least limit their role to similar what you see with auto industry - that would mean instant explosion of innovation and much greater affordability.
Of course, it will never be as accessible and affordable like the auto industry but , it would certainly be better - I don't think it can get much worse than it is now ... on average 5-10 years to issue a ruling ... everything being decided, down to the level of technology ( as opposed to general guidance regulations), by committee overseeing another committee reporting yet to another committee ...
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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby TimTaylor » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:27 pm

kennyc wrote:Hello, my first post!

As one that began their private pilot training many years ago and got about 80 percent through (life happened and ended my training), recently I thought about returning to flying, but at my age and for my mission/purpose, I decided that Sport Pilot would be the route to go. Therein began my trouble. There are many airports surrounding me within a thirty mile radius that have training facilities, however there are zero that offer Sport Pilot training. I've talked to six CFI's and they have all said the same thing, they have no problem taking me on as a student for Sport Pilot, but, they do not have access to an aircraft that qualifies as a LSA. The closest training that I have been able to find is approximately 150 miles away.

With that being said, should an increase in gross result in the encapsulation of some common trainers used in PPL, that would open the door for a lot of people to be able to obtain Sport Pilot training locally or within a reasonable distance. I think this is a positive direction should it materialize.

If any of this ever happens, it's too far away to help you. If you want to get a pilot certificate you should just do it. If your health is good, I would recommend you get an FAA 3rd class medical and finish up your Private. As a Private, you can still fly LSA if you want, so mission has nothing to do with it. If you don't want to risk the FAA medical, then your choices are to drive to wherever you need to or purchase your own LSA. Don't wait. Life is short.
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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby TimTaylor » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:35 pm

Warmi wrote:What will truly open the door would be taking the FAA out of the equation for non-commercial GA , or at least limit their role to similar what you see with auto industry - that would mean instant explosion of innovation and much greater affordability.
Of course, it will never be as accessible and affordable like the auto industry but , it would certainly be better - I don't think it can get much worse than it is now ... on average 5-10 years to issue a ruling ... everything being decided, down to the level of technology ( as opposed to general guidance regulations), by committee overseeing another committee reporting yet to another committee ...


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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby Sling 2 Pilot » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:15 pm

kennyc wrote:Hello, my first post!

As one that began their private pilot training many years ago and got about 80 percent through (life happened and ended my training), recently I thought about returning to flying, but at my age and for my mission/purpose, I decided that Sport Pilot would be the route to go. Therein began my trouble. There are many airports surrounding me within a thirty mile radius that have training facilities, however there are zero that offer Sport Pilot training. I've talked to six CFI's and they have all said the same thing, they have no problem taking me on as a student for Sport Pilot, but, they do not have access to an aircraft that qualifies as a LSA. The closest training that I have been able to find is approximately 150 miles away.

With that being said, should an increase in gross result in the encapsulation of some common trainers used in PPL, that would open the door for a lot of people to be able to obtain Sport Pilot training locally or within a reasonable distance. I think this is a positive direction should it materialize.


Where are you in NYC?

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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby TimTaylor » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:44 pm

How do you know his name is not Kenny C?
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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby rcpilot » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:34 am

kennyc wrote:Hello, my first post!

As one that began their private pilot training many years ago and got about 80 percent through (life happened and ended my training), recently I thought about returning to flying, but at my age and for my mission/purpose, I decided that Sport Pilot would be the route to go. Therein began my trouble. There are many airports surrounding me within a thirty mile radius that have training facilities, however there are zero that offer Sport Pilot training. I've talked to six CFI's and they have all said the same thing, they have no problem taking me on as a student for Sport Pilot, but, they do not have access to an aircraft that qualifies as a LSA. The closest training that I have been able to find is approximately 150 miles away.

With that being said, should an increase in gross result in the encapsulation of some common trainers used in PPL, that would open the door for a lot of people to be able to obtain Sport Pilot training locally or within a reasonable distance. I think this is a positive direction should it materialize.


As an FYI, Lakewood, NJ airport does sport pilot as does Mid-Island flight school at Brookhaven Airport on Long Island. Depending on where you live in NYC they should be 1.5-2 hours away. Lakewood has 2 Sportcruisers and Mid-Island has a Skycatcher.

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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby kennyc » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:55 pm

I do not know how I've been identified as being in NYC, but I am not. I am in Tennessee. LOL

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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby TimTaylor » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:59 pm

Someone jumped to the conclusion that kennyc meant Ken in NYC.
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Re: 3600 lbs gross for LSA ?

Postby FastEddieB » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:12 pm

kennyc wrote:I do not know how I've been identified as being in NYC, but I am not. I am in Tennessee. LOL


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