RTK wrote:So... what is the price of a S-LSA RV12iS? I can't seem to find any information on Vans' website (or their newly dedicated RV12 website.)
I read somewhere a while back where it was going to be about $150k plus options like second screen etc. In 2014 mine was $115 plus $13k of options including paint. I’d figure the new model to be around $125k basic, plus $15k for the same options and paint. Add $18k for iS engine and $6k for second screen. Just my somewhat informed WAG.
The rollout is classic Vans, info but not the stuff you really need like pricing, and options. It might be somewhere but you’ll have to dig, right now anyway. What’s the difference between the iS and the iST?
I’ve owned an RV-12 SLSA for 4 years and so I have thought about the merits of upgrading to the iS model.so far I haven’t seen enough to scratch any itch.
The Sport engine is more complex and expensive to buy and operate/maintain.The improvement in fuel burn cost is really minimal to me considering the cost of 93E10, and I’m pretty pleased to get average 5gph with my ULS engine.
Over the life of the engine I doubt I’d ever save enough fuel to offset the extra cost. As for power the ULS leaps of the ground as it is, I don’t need the extra power especially as I can’t carry any extra load or fuel under LSA rules.
Everyone touts the “inconvenience” carbs and balancing them etc. although I typically get them weighed and balanced at annual and it doesn’t take the mechanic very long. Otherwise very reliable.
The increased weight, complexity and price of the Sport engine is the thing I most ponder . You can opt for the same ULS engine, which I already have so....
Fuel..capacity is the same as is location albeit sideways across rear cabin vs behind passenger seat. The fuel filler is lower but there is an issue of fuel gushing out and damaging canopy, if you’re not careful. Ask me how I know.
There is a cup holder....and USB ports which is nice.
There is now a throttle lever vs my vernier option and some controls moved but basically where they were. I think the glad are now electric but Zimmerman happy with simple flap handle. I already have the canopy latch mod.
Vans have been testing a three blade prop option but I read that there is no real increase in performance, some slight speed increase offset by the extra drag. The three blade looks sexier, but...
I would really have liked to see detachable wings being an option for those who want to trailer versus the vast majority who’ve never removed the wings. Myself included.
I’d prefer fixed wings with tanks in each like the Rans S-19 Venterra, almost identical to-12.
It frees up space in cabin, and takes fuel tank out of cabin, where it’s easier to fill and work on. I’m disappointed that Vans did not do a redesign option or increase fuel capacity.
I’d opt for the dual screens and maybe go with Garmin having had some issues with Dynon. I wanted dual SkyViews when I bought mine but was told by Vans that wasn’t an option, until they offered it about three months later! What did I say about Vans?
All this said, the RV-12 is a fantastic airplane if you want a plane that does 118-120kts on 5gph of auto fuel (less in Sport engine), barely uses oil, is really responsive and performs the light sport mission very well. For me personally I’ll stick with my Rv-12. If I was looking for the first time I’d be hesitant because at the price point it’s more comparable with other manufacturers. But I’d seriously consider it. Mine was about $22k less four years ago and, as I’ve outlined above, what more do I get for the $$ that I don’t have now?
Well, I’d get a more expensive engine that saves maybe 10% on $2.90 gal fuel. You definitely would need access to a Sport engine trained mechanic.
In fairness to Vans they’re updating an overall brilliant design