New (to me) RV-12

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New (to me) RV-12

Postby hook_dupin » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:18 pm

I've been a flight instructor as my side-hustle for some years now.

After a bunch of research (and numerous calls to Helen at Chesapeake Sport Pilot), I decided to take the plunge on a used S-LSA RV-12 to use as a trainer. My wife and I did the Carpenter's long course a few months ago as a "nerd vacation."

I really see more private pilot students than sport pilot students, but there is a Sport DPE in my area who seems like he's under worked.

This pretty girl will be ferried home to the Florida Gulf Coast on the April 14th weekend.

I'm pretty excited to have maintenance control over the aircraft I'm teaching in, as I haven't always been a fan of the maintenance at places I've taught.

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby Wm.Ince » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:20 pm

Congratulations!
That's a pretty little airplane.
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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby RTK » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:44 pm

Congratulations! Beautiful! And you can’t go wrong with Vans aircraft!

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby TimTaylor » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:05 pm

If I had the money to spend, that would be my first choice.
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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby cam737 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:53 pm

Beautiful! Love the paint. Congrats!!
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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby RV-12builder » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:30 am

Congratulations! Nice paint and interior colors.

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby ShawnM » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:22 pm

She's a beauty for sure, congrats.

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby WDD » Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:13 pm

[quote="hook_dupin"]

Congrats! Quick question - what is the "Carpenter's Long Course"?

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby 3Dreaming » Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:32 pm

WDD wrote:
hook_dupin wrote:
Congrats! Quick question - what is the "Carpenter's Long Course"?


That would be the 120 hour course for Light Sport Repairman with maintenance rating.

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?S ... 7&rgn=div8

It allows you to perform maintenance and conditions on aircraft with an airworthiness certificate in the light sport category or with an experimental certificate for operation of a light sport aircraft.

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby ShawnM » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:51 pm

3Dreaming wrote:
WDD wrote:
hook_dupin wrote:
Congrats! Quick question - what is the "Carpenter's Long Course"?


That would be the 120 hour course for Light Sport Repairman with maintenance rating.

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?S ... 7&rgn=div8

It allows you to perform maintenance and conditions on aircraft with an airworthiness certificate in the light sport category or with an experimental certificate for operation of a light sport aircraft.


Not once have I ever heard anyone refer to it that way, now if he would have said he took the Light Sport Repairman Maintenance course then I would have understood. Maybe they do things different up north. :mrgreen:

I am aware that the instructors last name is Carpenter.

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby drseti » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:42 pm

3Dreaming wrote:
It allows you to perform maintenance and conditions on aircraft with an airworthiness certificate in the light sport category or with an experimental certificate for operation of a light sport aircraft.


Close, Tom. (Added italics are mine.) The LSRM allows one to do condition inspections on an SLSA or ELSA. For an E-AB, even if it meets the LSA definition, the LSRM cannot do the condition inspection. That can only be done by an A&P (no IA required), or an original builder who got a repairman's certificate.
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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby FastEddieB » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:02 pm

To further confuse things, I think the “short“ course is not actually a “maintenance” course at all but an “inspection” course.
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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby Nomore767 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:20 pm

The first 12 (I think) RV-12 SLSA’s had Van Grunsven’s “signature” on the fuselage. A guy in SC has another early one, same color, with the signature.

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby 3Dreaming » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:18 pm

drseti wrote:
3Dreaming wrote:
It allows you to perform maintenance and conditions on aircraft with an airworthiness certificate in the light sport category or with an experimental certificate for operation of a light sport aircraft.


Close, Tom. (Added italics are mine.) The LSRM allows one to do condition inspections on an SLSA or ELSA. For an E-AB, even if it meets the LSA definition, the LSRM cannot do the condition inspection. That can only be done by an A&P (no IA required), or an original builder who got a repairman's certificate.


Paul, I didn't say a LSRM could do a condition inspection on a EAB. I said they could do it on a aircraft with an experimental certificate for operation of a light sport aircraft. That in fact is a ELSA. See CFR21.191 (i), (2).

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby drseti » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:24 pm

I didn't disagree with what you said, Tom. I was just clarifying and elaborating for those here who might not know the FARs as well as you do.
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