New (to me) RV-12

Talk about airplanes! At last count, there are 39 (and growing) FAA certificated S-LSA (special light sport aircraft). These are factory-built ready to fly airplanes. If you can't afford a factory-built LSA, consider buying an E-LSA kit (experimental LSA - up to 99% complete).

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby 3Dreaming » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:17 pm

drseti wrote:I didn't disagree with what you said, Tom. I was just clarifying and elaborating for those here who might not know the FARs as well as you do.


I took you saying I was "close" to mean that I was incorrect in what I had said.

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby hook_dupin » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:20 am

ShawnM wrote:
3Dreaming wrote:
WDD wrote:


That would be the 120 hour course for Light Sport Repairman with maintenance rating.

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?S ... 7&rgn=div8

It allows you to perform maintenance and conditions on aircraft with an airworthiness certificate in the light sport category or with an experimental certificate for operation of a light sport aircraft.


Not once have I ever heard anyone refer to it that way, now if he would have said he took the Light Sport Repairman Maintenance course then I would have understood. Maybe they do things different up north. :mrgreen:

I am aware that the instructors last name is Carpenter.


Something else I picked up on in my research: there are only two places to get a LSRM rating, and one of those places is a community college that offers it as a summer class.

The biggest driver for me deciding on this airplane is it’s ease of maintenance and Vans supporting the product.

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby drseti » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 am

3Dreaming wrote:I took you saying I was "close" to mean that I was incorrect in what I had said.


As a pedantic professor, I use close to mean "close to complete," not "close to correct."
;)

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby FastEddieB » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:12 am

drseti wrote:You can always count on me to give the longest answer! :D


Are you that pressed for time? A lá Pascal...

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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby MrMorden » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:39 am

FastEddieB wrote:To further confuse things, I think the “short“ course is not actually a “maintenance” course at all but an “inspection” course.


Yes, the "short course" is a Light Sport Repairman - Inspection (LSRI) vs. the "long course" LSRM (maintenance). The LSRI only has any legal effect if you own an ELSA, then you are authorized to do condition inspections on that specific aircraft (though there is good general info in the course for any pilot or owner). You actually have to get a specific Repairman cert for each aircraft you own, so if I sold mine and bought something else, I'd have to go back to the FSDO and surrender my old cert and get a new one. My LSRI card lists my airplane specifically by N-number and serial number.

I know you know all this Eddie, this is just some additional info for others who might not be familiar with the short v. long courses and what they entail.
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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby drseti » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:44 am

FastEddieB wrote:A lá Pascal...


What the Blaises are you talking about, Eddie?
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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby Wm.Ince » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:09 am

MrMorden wrote:
FastEddieB wrote:To further confuse things, I think the “short“ course is not actually a “maintenance” course at all but an “inspection” course.


Yes, the "short course" is a Light Sport Repairman - Inspection (LSRI) vs. the "long course" LSRM (maintenance). The LSRI only has any legal effect if you own an ELSA, then you are authorized to do condition inspections on that specific aircraft (though there is good general info in the course for any pilot or owner). You actually have to get a specific Repairman cert for each aircraft you own, so if I sold mine and bought something else, I'd have to go back to the FSDO and surrender my old cert and get a new one. My LSRI card lists my airplane specifically by N-number and serial number.

Thanks for the clarification, Andy.
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Re: New (to me) RV-12

Postby ryoder » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:09 am

Awesome! Looks great.


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