Zenith Cruzer useful load?

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Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby chicagorandy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:12 am

In another post I reference a local flying club that owns a Zenith 750 Cruzer with a Continental O200D engine. Looking on the Zenith site for data has me a little confused. They show an LSA gross weight of 1320 and a DESIGN gross of 1440?

Which weight is used to determine if this is a Light Sport that I 'could' fly with Sport Pilot license?

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Re: Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby joey4420 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:17 am

It is all based on how the plane was registered when it was built. No matter if it was SLSA ELSA or EAB if it was built with a gross weight of 1320lbs or less it is legal as Sport Pilot, if built with an airworthiness of over 1320 then it is not legal for sport pilot.
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Re: Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby Warmi » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:55 am

They are advertising the plane as Light Sport which suggest it was registered as such so I think you will be good.

Now, the fact that the plane is physically capable of handling higher gross is really a bonus - to me , it is basically question of , if I overload this plane a bit over Light Sport limits , yes I am technically breaking a few rules but , but none of these are physical rules ...
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Re: Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby Old Coot » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:56 pm

Warmi said:
Now, the fact that the plane is physically capable of handling higher gross is really a bonus - to me , it is basically question of , if I overload this plane a bit over Light Sport limits , yes I am technically breaking a few rules but , but none of these are physical rules ...


I agreed that you would probably be safe physically up to the Design Gross Weight, but what about insurance? If it's registered as a Light Sport would you void your insurance if you flew it over 1320 lb.? I wouldn't want to have an accident and have the insurance company refuse to pay because I was a few pounds over the Light Sport limit. I don't know if I would take the chance.

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Re: Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby Old Coot » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:02 pm

Warmi said:
Now, the fact that the plane is physically capable of handling higher gross is really a bonus - to me , it is basically question of , if I overload this plane a bit over Light Sport limits , yes I am technically breaking a few rules but , but none of these are physical rules ...


I agreed that you would probably be safe physically up to the Design Gross Weight, but what about insurance? If it's registered as a Light Sport would you void your insurance if you flew it over 1320 lb.? I wouldn't want to have an accident and have the insurance company refuse to pay because I was a few pounds over the Light Sport limit. I don't know if I would take the chance.

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Re: Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby Old Coot » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:03 pm

Sorry about the double post.

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Re: Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby drseti » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:22 pm

As I've discussed in other threads, the more heavily loaded an airplane is, the less survivable an accident becomes. This is discussed at some length in my EAA wt/bal webinar at:

http://www.eaavideo.org/detail/video/4020456687001

So, legalities or insurance notwithstanding, there are safety considerations, regardless of what the designer might call the design weight.
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Re: Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby TimTaylor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:35 pm

People need to stop advocating violation of FAR's/CFR's. People posting on this site should be advocating adherence to FAR's/CFR's and aircraft/pilot certification limitations. If you don't want to follow the rules, please don't encourage others to follow suit.
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Re: Zenith Cruzer useful load?

Postby drseti » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:03 am

+1000
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