Weight limit increase for parachute?

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Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby Cluemeister » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:58 am

I noticed the Icon A5 weight limit is 1510. I know part of that is float plane (1430), but they also got another 80 lb exemption either for wing cuffs or parachute, a safety option.

Does anyone know if any LSA manufacturer has asked or received a weight exemption for a parachute?

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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby Merlinspop » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:03 am

Cluemeister wrote:I noticed the Icon A5 weight limit is 1510. I know part of that is float plane (1430), but they also got another 80 lb exemption either for wing cuffs or parachute, a safety option.

Does anyone know if any LSA manufacturer has asked or received a weight exemption for a parachute?

I believe that when Icon got the increase several manufacturers' ears perked up and the FAA quickly said, "don't even try."
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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby drseti » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:01 am

The Icon A5 is a great airplane, but the weight increase was highly controversial. All the LSA manufacturers who played by the rules are incensed that the FAA would play favorites. Many of us feel everyone should be competing on a level playing field. So, a weight exemption should either apply to everyone, or no one. FAA saying they're doing it for safety doesn't wash. One wonders about Icon's political connections.
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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby Flocker » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:01 pm

Wasn't the exemption due to the Spin-Resistant Airframe?

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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby drseti » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:11 pm

That was the rationale, Flocker. Still doesn't change the fact that they moved the goalposts in the middle of the game.
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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby Flocker » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:27 pm

Flocker wrote:Wasn't the exemption due to the Spin-Resistant Airframe?


Found the video: https://youtu.be/bsQcfzNWJWc

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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby BrianL99 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:32 pm

Terrafugia got a weight exemption and is trying to get another one.

Which our leader drseti knows about. Didn't you file comments regarding their request?

http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All- ... t-increase

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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby drseti » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:49 pm

Yes, I did, Brian. The gist of my FAA NPRM comments was that the Terrafugia Transition is a great project, and I wish them well, but the aircraft as now proposed meets neither the spirit nor the specs of the SLSA category. Instead of seeking an exemption from the rules, they should simply certify it in the Primary category.
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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby Cluemeister » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:43 pm

So is the FAA granting exemptions based on how cool your project is? :(

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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby drseti » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:25 pm

Cluemeister wrote:So is the FAA granting exemptions based on how cool your project is? :(


So it would appear. Granting exemptions in the interest of safety is arguably justifiable. For any other reason, it becomes merely arguable.
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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby SportPilot » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:08 pm

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Re: Weight limit increase for parachute?

Postby drseti » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:13 pm

AFAIK, just that and the Terafugia Transition, to date.
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