Re: Garmin 300
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:28 am
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Same here - not a primary. I'll ask BB next time I see him. I wonder, do they keep the G1000s current?SportPilot wrote:I assume they don't want to spend the money and don't see it as necessary, IDK. It's not a problem for me since I use by tablet as primary, but it would be good if they would keep it up. I've never asked them about it.
That's kind of what I was looking for. Due to our extreme variation here in Washington, a traditional mag compass is problematic. I have a floating mag compass on my sea kayak, and it can to be adjusted for variation (yakkers call it declination, like the Army) to provide a true heading. But in swells or rolls (turbulence?) it can swing so badly as to be nearly useless. So far I like the compass/heading indicator or whatever it is showing in the flat panel on the Garmin 300, because it appears to be very stable and accurate. I guess what I originally meant to ask is, is it aligned with true north or magnetic north, and does it need to be adjusted periodically?VL Roberts wrote:The Skycatcher has a magnetometer located in the tail cone, and is fully compliant with FAA regs for a VFR airplane even though it does not have the standard compass.
Like Sport Pilot I wouldn't go to the expense of adding a compass to a Sport plane if I didn't have to.
There was one SB that Cessna issued for the G300 in 2011 . That SB updated the magnetic variance values. Other than that I know of no other adjustments or calibrations that can or should be done.HAPPYDAN wrote:That's kind of what I was looking for. Due to our extreme variation here in Washington, a traditional mag compass is problematic. I have a floating mag compass on my sea kayak, and it can to be adjusted for variation (yakkers call it declination, like the Army) to provide a true heading. But in swells or rolls (turbulence?) it can swing so badly as to be nearly useless. So far I like the compass/heading indicator or whatever it is showing in the flat panel on the Garmin 300, because it appears to be very stable and accurate. I guess what I originally meant to ask is, is it aligned with true north or magnetic north, and does it need to be adjusted periodically?VL Roberts wrote:The Skycatcher has a magnetometer located in the tail cone, and is fully compliant with FAA regs for a VFR airplane even though it does not have the standard compass.
Like Sport Pilot I wouldn't go to the expense of adding a compass to a Sport plane if I didn't have to.
Well, the local Cessna dealer laid it all out - the "Heading Indicator" on the G300 is actually a magnetic compass, electronically stabilized, but still aligned with magnetic north. So no "ANDS" or any of that, but I still have to consider WCA and variation when following a heading. OK. BTW, amazing how airplane dealers know their product, but car dealers are still pretty cluelessVL Roberts wrote:There was one SB that Cessna issued for the G300 in 2011 . That SB updated the magnetic variance values. Other than that I know of no other adjustments or calibrations that can or should be done.HAPPYDAN wrote:That's kind of what I was looking for. Due to our extreme variation here in Washington, a traditional mag compass is problematic. I have a floating mag compass on my sea kayak, and it can to be adjusted for variation (yakkers call it declination, like the Army) to provide a true heading. But in swells or rolls (turbulence?) it can swing so badly as to be nearly useless. So far I like the compass/heading indicator or whatever it is showing in the flat panel on the Garmin 300, because it appears to be very stable and accurate. I guess what I originally meant to ask is, is it aligned with true north or magnetic north, and does it need to be adjusted periodically?VL Roberts wrote:The Skycatcher has a magnetometer located in the tail cone, and is fully compliant with FAA regs for a VFR airplane even though it does not have the standard compass.
Like Sport Pilot I wouldn't go to the expense of adding a compass to a Sport plane if I didn't have to.
Not to nitpick, but..HAPPYDAN wrote:...but I still have to consider WCA and variation when following a heading.
Except, according to the PTS, to pass your Sport Pilot practical test you still have to demonstrate drawing lines on sectionals and using pilotage and ded (not dead) reckoning. And, intercepting and tracking of VOR radials in both directions is still in the Private Pilot PTS.SportPilot wrote:Flying today is so much easier than when we were drawing lines on sectionals and using pilotage, dead reckoning, and VOR's.
Pilots who do so are affectionately known as Children of the Magenta. (Check youtube for a great lecture of that title by an air carrier check pilot). If you look at the buttons on an older GPS, you will see that the white paint is worn completely off the "Direct To" button, while the others are pristine. Nothing wrong with flying Direct To, but if you have a GPS, go the extra mile, and learn all its other functions (including programming in a multi-leg flight plan, and following a whole sequence of magenta lines).SportPilot wrote:Really, all you have to do is input a direct to airport and follow the line on the screen by flying the heading plus or minus wind correction.
I have never heard this before. Please explain.drseti wrote:ded (not dead) reckoning.
At the airline when they began to introduce planes with EFIS, flight management systems etc they hammered home 'where's the raw data?" and we had to do intricate briefings before each approach. Doing NDB and VOR approaches with all this new stuff seemed like a big increase in workload. There was a full set of flight instruments as well in case the magic failed.drseti wrote:Pilots who do so are affectionately known as Children of the Magenta. (Check youtube for a great lecture of that title by an air carrier check pilot). If you look at the buttons on an older GPS, you will see that the white paint is worn completely off the "Direct To" button, while the others are pristine. Nothing wrong with flying Direct To, but if you have a GPS, go the extra mile, and learn all its other functions (including programming in a multi-leg flight plan, and following a whole sequence of magenta lines).SportPilot wrote:Really, all you have to do is input a direct to airport and follow the line on the screen by flying the heading plus or minus wind correction.
Edit: Here's the link -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN41LvuSz10
Got it. I have never seen it spelled any way except *dead*. Thanks for the correction, it makes sense!drseti wrote:Ded is an abbreviation for deduced. Dead is just .... well, dead.