SLSA Dream Machine

[CTLSi]

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[MovingOn]

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[FastEddieB]

.... already 2020 compliant.

Not with a 796 as the GPS source it's not. Just because it can provide data doesn't mean it's "2020 compliant".

The requirement calls for a WAAS GPS, the 796 meets that...

Pretty sure it does not.

Again, fall of 2019 sounds to me like a good time to start worrying about this sort of thing.

It's what I'm doing, anyway!

[Merlinspop]

Pretty sure it does not.

Again, fall of 2019 sounds to me like a good time to start worrying about this sort of thing.

It's what I'm doing, anyway!

The requirement does not specify WAAS.
Here's a briefing given by the FAA Surveillance Team Lead. Note slide 23. Does you Flight Manual contain the Language found on slide 18?

Dynon hinted that they are working on a truly compliant position source. Whether it is a box licensed from someone else or in-house doesn't really matter. They have a good rep for delivering what they say they will.

[edit: including the link would be helpful... https://www.aea.net/Training/courses/AD ... idance.pdf. ]

[drseti]

The way the rules are written right now, the GPS in the 796 will not meet ADS-B Out position source requirements. Of course, a lot can change over the next 5 years.

[3Dreaming]

We get it. The CTLSi is your ultimate dream machine. We're happy for you.

And sometimes less is more.

Who needs more than 1 comm radio, mode C transponder, and an IPad or Android tablet?

Actually, I am OK with just a sectional. At least in my part of the country.

[MovingOn]

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[zaitcev]

I never used E-6B after the checkride (not for pilotage anyway), but I use a clock in addition to the sectional.

[MovingOn]

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[snaproll]

I will worry about ADS-B out about 2019.. Already have ADS-B in... But have nothing compatible for ADS-B out. I began flying with a NARCO Mark 3, minimal instrumentation, a sectional, and a E-6B. Flying was enjoyable, spent more time looking out of the cockpit, and less time playing with the toys... Flew days, nights, long cross country's, and was never lost.

[drseti]

Gee, Don, when we started, the E6B was only an E6A.

[FastEddieB]

Gee, Don, when we started, the E6B was only an E6A.

Did you forget that you showed me your first flight computer?

[Nomore767]

When I asked Vans about this same subject here is the answer:-

"The txp in your airplane is the Dynon SV-XPNDR=261 - that is not a module but the txp itself. We use this as it will be ADS-B compliant after 2020 (once a WAAS certified GPS source is available)".

So, I have ADSB-IN and the ADSB-OUT 'capability and function' now, it just won't be 100% compliant until there is an approved GPS source which Vans can then install to meet the 2020 goal. I think this is true with almost all other SLSAs on the market.

[MrMorden]

The requirement does not specify WAAS.
Here's a briefing given by the FAA Surveillance Team Lead. Note slide 23. Does you Flight Manual contain the Language found on slide 18?

Correct, technically. However, the spec does require a "high precision GPS". Currently WAAS is the only way to meet that standard. A regular old GPS won't make that spec; even an original non-WAAS 430 is not compliant.

So unless somebody comes up with a new way to get the required precision out of the GPS system, compliance in reality DOES mean WAAS.

[MrMorden]

The way the rules are written right now, the GPS in the 796 will not meet ADS-B Out position source requirements. Of course, a lot can change over the next 5 years.

Agreed. I'm hoping that at some point sanity will prevail and they will drop the certification requirement, then everybody with a Garmin 396 or better will have an appropriate GPS source, and we can move on to issues that might actually make a difference to flight safety. After all, the GPS satellite cloud really doesn't know whether your receiver has a TSO, the equivalent of the "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval" (remember those? I'm really showing my age here...)