Time to talk about Allegro's

Talk about airplanes! At last count, there are 39 (and growing) FAA certificated S-LSA (special light sport aircraft). These are factory-built ready to fly airplanes. If you can't afford a factory-built LSA, consider buying an E-LSA kit (experimental LSA - up to 99% complete).

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allegrowner
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Re: Sure thing

Postby allegrowner » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:37 pm

timpry wrote:I love mine... Its a fine little airplane... and other than a couple of upgrades... IE replacing the OEM break/axle/wheels with Matco parts... and replacing a gear leg that had begun to delaminate... its only cost me a few hundred a month for gas, insurance, maintenance and hangar fees. Its fast enough for my needs...has enough range for my needs... and easy enough to fly... I cant complain.


I've been flying with mine for more than a year now and really enjoy it. This is a really fine aircraft with good performances. It is reliable and easy to maintain and cheap on fuel (even with the price of fuel here in Quebec = 1.65 /ltr or 7.50 /gl). I have about 90 hours of flight on it and always looking forward to get back in the air.... :P
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Check ride & post check ride fun

Postby timpry » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:33 am

Well I passed my check ride in the Allegro! The interesting thing is... during the check ride my left rear exhaust header pipe broke... in half... and I cut the flight short.. The DPE was impressed with my decision making... (wasnt a hard choice... with the ROTAX sounding like a boat motor) The post check ride fun was the next week... after I had the header pipe repaired... I decided to do a couple trips thru the pattern at lunch... and noticed I wasnt hearing the flap motor turning when I switched between flap settings... I looked down and saw the flap breaker had popped.. and the flaps were at 0... (note the flaps worked fine on the ground) So I am going to move my annual inspection up a month.. and see what in the world happened to my flaps. So are there any common causes for flap failures in the Allegro??
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Postby FlyRod » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:10 pm

Congrats Tim on passing your check ride!

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Postby timpry » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:15 am

Thanks...

The inspection went well... The flap failure was due to a wire coming loose from one of the flap position switches... So that was not a biggie. I am going to do a short cross country this weekend... my first with my new ticket. then another the next week to get a transponder check.
Tim Pry

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Postby FrankR » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:28 pm

I love the Allegro 2000 I fly.

I was checking out Empty Weights and Useful Loads for several different LSA's a while back and the Allegro seems to be the only one that can take two 250 lb men, full fuel, and a flight bag with 1235 MTOW.

Under $100,000.

I should ask for commission.
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Postby drseti » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:41 pm

FrankR wrote: the Allegro seems to be the only one that can take two 250 lb men, full fuel, and a flight bag with 1235 MTOW.


I don't know the Allegro's fuel capacity, or the weight of your flight bag, but just guessing at 20 gallons and 20 pounds, respectively, that would suggest 595 pounds empty weight. That's incredibly light. Assuming 140 pounds for the engine (about the lightest I know) leaves only 455 pounds for airframe, interior, prop, instruments, and avionics. Not sure how they'd do that.
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Postby FrankR » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:16 am

7 Pound bag, 14.5 gal fuel.

I know the bag is light. But you could consider just required charts and a headset. Still, 2 big men and full fuel.

The Allegro 2007 goes to 1320 lbs with 647 lbs Empty Weight and a 17 gal tank.

Allegro 2000-N50631
Desc..........Weight...............Arm.............Moment
Empty............638...............10.31...........6577.78
Pilot...............250...............18.35...........4587.50
Passenger......250...............18.35...........4587.50
14.5 gal Fuel....87...............15.00...........1305.00
Baggage............7...............32.00............224.00
=.......Totals..1232...............14.03........17281.78

Min CG..............10.95
Max CG.............15.35
MTOW...........1232.00
Mx Baggage......22.00

Allegro 2007-N90652
Desc..........Weight...............Arm.............Moment
Empty............647...............10.31...........6670.57
Pilot...............275...............18.35...........5046.25
Passenger......274...............18.35...........5027.90
17 gal Fuel.....102...............15.00...........1530.00
Baggage..........22...............32.00............704.00
=.......Totals..1320..............14.38.........18978.72

Min CG..............10.95
Max CG.............15.35
MTOW............1320.00
Mx Baggage.......22.00
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Allegro baggage

Postby saintlfd » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:50 pm

Doug Hempstead, Pres of Allegro LSA, told me the baggage capacity is 22 lbs with the 'chute and 55 lbs without. Also, they will be putting an 'upraised' area in the rear such that, if your baggage does not cross the line, you can go as high as 100 lbs., subject to the overall max of 1320.

Exceptional payload for this class.
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Postby FrankR » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:57 pm

I just like the fact that two fat, bald, old men can fly.
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Postby saintlfd » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:28 pm

I have to work on the bald part. The rest of it I've got down!
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Postby CBKERR » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:40 pm

Does fat a in the process of going bald count.

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Postby FrankR » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:41 am

CBKERR wrote:Does fat a in the process of going bald count.


How much does hair weigh?

With 275 lb each for pass and pilot, I think it doesn't matter.
Frank
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Postby goinaround » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:47 pm

I have around 85 hours mostly in a CTSW but also CTLS and Remos gx.
While traveling thru North Carolina I stopped In Sanford and visited B bar D aviation and took a demo flight in the Allegro.
What a neat plane! Very responsive.While all LSA'S handle ok on the ground I found the Allegro very comfortable from taxi to takeoff.It also seems to be a real bargain. I wish there was a rental available near Tidewater Va.
Any way just wanted to give a plug to a really neat American built Lsa.
Thanks bunches, and I don't think you've seen the last of me yet :D

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Postby zaitcev » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:53 pm

What do you think about workmanship, in particular did you see any rubbing of control cables? How's the end finishing for cable loops where they connect to pilot controls and surfaces (horns)?

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Postby goinaround » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:09 am

I thought fit and finish were good, I was very suprised at how well the cowling fit after wrestling with some of the other lsa's.
I was only in it for 30 minutes or so but came away really liking what I saw.
Doors removable or can open I think under 80 knts. :lol:
just a neat little plane.


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