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OK, I concede that (A) is what makes it explicit, because "along an airway" puts you in controlled airspace.
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MovingOn wrote:All class E is controlled airspace.
True, but when most of us say "controlled airspace" we mean airspace with a specific controlling authority that we will probably have to talk to on the radio. A,B,C,D and the Mode-C veil of B (basically the spaces that will require ADS-B Out) is what most of us think of as "controlled".

It's not technically correct, but it's pretty common.
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MovingOn wrote:Right, but it's probably best to use the correct terminology so as not to confuse. The FAR's are confusing enough already. For instance, you wouldn't want a new pilot to think 1 mile and clear of clouds is OK flying around in class E airspace.
We need a new term for just the A,B,C,D, and Mode-C veil then...

"ATC airspace" ?

"ADS-B airspace" ?

"ABCD airspace" ?

"Radio airspace" ?
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"DILLIGAF" airspace?
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MovingOn wrote:Except A, B, C, D, E, and G airspace is all mutually exclusive (I think). ADS-B requirements are A and above, B and above, C and above, class B 30 nm veil and above ,and above 10,000 MSL. There is no exclusive ADS-B airspace.
Right, but those spaces that will require ADS-B out are usually exactly the same as those we commonly refer to as "controlled".
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MovingOn wrote:
MrMorden wrote:
MovingOn wrote:Except A, B, C, D, E, and G airspace is all mutually exclusive (I think). ADS-B requirements are A and above, B and above, C and above, class B 30 nm veil and above ,and above 10,000 MSL. There is no exclusive ADS-B airspace.
Right, but those spaces that will require ADS-B out are usually exactly the same as those we commonly refer to as "controlled".
Who is "we." Controlled airspace is everything except G. I'm just suggesting that we ought to use the correct terminology.
"We" is the pilot community. We all understand (or should) than class E is controlled airspace. But we (meaning many pilots of all certification levels from student to ATP) also use term "controlled" to mean airspace where ATC direction is mandatory.

I don't disagree that we should use proper terminology, which is why I suggested we should apply a different term to mean airspace where ATC interaction is required. You didn't play along...so I guess we have to keep misusing the term and annoying you. :lol:
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FastEddieB wrote:"DILLIGAF" airspace?
Yes, Eddie, as a matter of fact you do.
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