EAA AOPA medical proposal

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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby dstclair » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:59 pm

Looks like something is going to materialize: http://www.eaa.org/news/2014/2014-04-02 ... l-step.asp
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby Jack Tyler » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:24 am

Note the use of the word 'whether' in the FAA's language. Also loved they way they positioned themselves as "still considering a March 20, 2012 petition from the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA) and the Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA)" as tho' they've been busily gathering data and engaging in in-house dialogue on the matter.

How might the FAA do a little bit of what it has previously stated it doesn't want to do vs. accepting all of what AOPA/EAA petitioned? Lower engine horsepower limits? MTOW of the aircraft? Where might the FAA redraw the line, I wonder, if it redraws it at all.
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby designrs » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:47 am

"...whether to allow private pilots, in certain instances... according to certain operational limitations and restrictions... to conduct certain operations.... whether it can provide any relief to the medical requirement..."

PfffffFFFFFttttttTTT!!!

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Focus on programs that promote currency, education, good maintence and sound decision making.
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby Merlinspop » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:18 am

designrs wrote:"...whether to allow private pilots, in certain instances... according to certain operational limitations and restrictions... to conduct certain operations.... whether it can provide any relief to the medical requirement..."

PfffffFFFFFttttttTTT!!!

LSA has proven that planes don't fall out of the sky because of medical issues.
Focus on programs that promote currency, education, good maintence and sound decision making.
Idiot suppression would be more productive as well.


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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby ct4me » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:30 pm

Bureaucratic Gooberspeak... Translation: "We ain't done nothing, still don't want to do nothing. But we'll say we're thinking about it."
Maybe another round of letters to our Congresspeople will help. Who knows, maybe Congress will make it a law???
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby Nomore767 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:15 pm

The way I'm reading it, they might provide new guidelines to driver's license flying across the board ( to cover PPL and Sport?).

For instance, they say 'many pilots' will be able to utilize the DL option, so presumably, not all.

So, what if the new rules are that pilots with a history of cardiac issues, diabetes, sleep apnea, cancer, etc must provide extensive medical history before being allowed to utilize the DL, and everyone else is okay. The majority will welcome the new ruling, the rest will rue the loss of what they previously already had, using the self certification.

Thus they will get the more rigorous checking they were looking for with the 40 BMI checks of pilots.

Could this be a 'careful what you ask for' dilemma?

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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby MrMorden » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:07 pm

Nomore767 wrote:The way I'm reading it, they might provide new guidelines to driver's license flying across the board ( to cover PPL and Sport?).

For instance, they say 'many pilots' will be able to utilize the DL option, so presumably, not all.

So, what if the new rules are that pilots with a history of cardiac issues, diabetes, sleep apnea, cancer, etc must provide extensive medical history before being allowed to utilize the DL, and everyone else is okay. The majority will welcome the new ruling, the rest will rue the loss of what they previously already had, using the self certification.

Thus they will get the more rigorous checking they were looking for with the 40 BMI checks of pilots.

Could this be a 'careful what you ask for' dilemma?


It could be, but since none of those disorders are screened for to obtain a (non-commercial) driver's license, no reasonable person would call that a "driver's license medical" in the aircraft world. Worst case would be a relaxed "Fourth Class" medical that was then applied to Sport Pilots as well. Don't think the FAA wouldn't LOVE to get those SPs stuffed back into the medical system. But I think the outcry over that from the pilot community would make what they have seen so far look like paddycakes.
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby dstclair » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:49 pm

AMEs strike back: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/AM ... 803-1.html

Sounds like they are proposing a 4th class medical for privileges based on a bit more than a Recreational Pilot.
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby MrMorden » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:02 pm

dstclair wrote:AMEs strike back: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/AM ... 803-1.html

Sounds like they are proposing a 4th class medical for privileges based on a bit more than a Recreational Pilot.


Of course, they don't want to kill their golden goose...
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby rk911 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:57 pm

dstclair wrote:AMEs strike back: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/AM ... 803-1.html

Sounds like they are proposing a 4th class medical for privileges based on a bit more than a Recreational Pilot.


i noticed that they did not indicate why the measure would "seriously threaten the safety of affected pilots, their passengers and the public below." maybe they're too busy dealing with all of the sport and glider pilots who are falling out of the sky on a daily basis.
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby dstclair » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:45 pm

Yet another teaser for action: http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All- ... c_sect=adv

Basically, says that the rule making will be ready for public comment soon. 'Soon' in FAA speak doesn't usually mean the same thing in English.....
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Re: EAA AOPA medical proposal

Postby designrs » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:22 pm

FAA speaks at OSH:
http://www.eaa.org/en/airventure/eaa-ai ... h-priority

Nothing new except the mention of a possible "temporary exemption" before the "final rule making".
So would the temporary exemption preceded the comment period and the six month to two year process for the final ruling?


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