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Really, Dave? I thought cellphone usage in flight only required non-interference testing and the permission of the PIC.dstclair wrote:Given it's an FCC violation to operated a mobile phone in the air
Please post a reference.dstclair wrote:. . . . . Given it's an FCC violation to operated a mobile phone in the air . . . . .
Current as of December 20, 2018:Wm.Ince wrote:Please post a reference.dstclair wrote:. . . . . Given it's an FCC violation to operated a mobile phone in the air . . . . .
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?r ... .2.8.27.12§22.925 Prohibition on airborne operation of cellular telephones.
Cellular telephones installed in or carried aboard airplanes, balloons or any other type of aircraft must not be operated while such aircraft are airborne (not touching the ground). When any aircraft leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must be turned off. The following notice must be posted on or near each cellular telephone installed in any aircraft:
“The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is airborne is prohibited by FCC rules, and the violation of this rule could result in suspension of service and/or a fine. The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is on the ground is subject to FAA regulations.”
Thank you Dave.dstclair wrote:Current as of December 20, 2018:Wm.Ince wrote:Please post a reference.dstclair wrote:. . . . . Given it's an FCC violation to operated a mobile phone in the air . . . . .https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?r ... .2.8.27.12§22.925 Prohibition on airborne operation of cellular telephones.
Cellular telephones installed in or carried aboard airplanes, balloons or any other type of aircraft must not be operated while such aircraft are airborne (not touching the ground). When any aircraft leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must be turned off. The following notice must be posted on or near each cellular telephone installed in any aircraft:
“The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is airborne is prohibited by FCC rules, and the violation of this rule could result in suspension of service and/or a fine. The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is on the ground is subject to FAA regulations.”
I could be mistaken, but to me it appears that unless technical provisions are installed in the airplane that "eliminate interference between ground-base cellular stations with airborne cellular devices" (which seems to be a FCC concern rather than a FAA concern), cellular calls from airborne aircraft is prohibited.7. CELLULAR AND ONBOARD TELEPHONE SYSTEMS.
a. Restricting Airborne Cellular Telephone Use. There are additional considerations for PEDs with cellular or mobile telephony capabilities. These PEDs include mobile telephones and computers with cellular wireless network capabilities. The FCC prohibits cellular telephone operation while airborne, as noted in Title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations (47 CFR) part 22, § 22.925. This restriction is valid for all aircraft without having technical provisions (e.g., OMTS, Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM), AAS, NCU) that enable control of onboard mobile devices and eliminate interference between ground-based cellular stations with airborne cellular devices. If technical provisions are installed, compliant with, or exempt from § 22.925, then usage of cellular-enabled PEDs is acceptable. Emphasis is mine - SC.
b. Compliance With FCC Rules. The FAA supports this restriction on airborne cellular telephone use. The FAA does not prohibit the use of cellular telephones in aircraft while on the ground. While airborne, operators should instruct passengers to turn off cellular telephones, disable a PED’s cellular transmitting functions, or place PEDs with cellular or mobile telephony capabilities in airplane mode. The operator’s procedures should be clearly described in oral briefings prior to departure or in written material provided to each passenger.
(1) If an aircraft operator allows passengers to use an installed mobile telephone system, then the operator should instruct passengers to turn off cellular telephones, disable their PED’s cellular transmitting functions, or place PEDs with cellular mobile telephony capabilities in airplane mode as soon as the airplane is entering U.S. airspace. An automatic indication of this event should be provided by the system.
(2) In case the FCC will revise the restrictions mentioned above, the switch-off procedures, necessary for entering U.S. airspace, would then become obsolete.