Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

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Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby drdehave » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:09 am

The accident from last year--that I was very nearly a part of. May they rest in peace.

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Re: Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby RTK » Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:24 pm

Wow... that's tough to watch, let alone experience, I'm sure. I very much appreciate the words of wisdom at the end of your video as I'm taking it all in as a student pilot.

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Re: Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby drseti » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:09 pm

Having done decades of extensive research on, and published numerous articles and one book on, the subject of GA midair collisions, I can state that this sad occurrence fits perfectly the most common MAC scenario. (Not to take anything at all away from Rich's analysis; this is meant merely to validate and support his conclusions and recommendations.)
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Re: Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby SportPilot » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:54 pm

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Re: Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby drdehave » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:42 pm

The reports of this accident are all now said and done. Here are details, for what they're worth: http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2014/10/f ... -2014.html Note the toxicology results for the Savannah pilot.
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Re: Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby RTK » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:50 am

Thanks for posting the final report, drdehave.

A narcotic and a sedative (in addition to anti-malaria medication and benadryl)... seems like quite the cocktail. But it's the narcotic and sedative that makes me take pause. Regardless of my thoughts, those pilots lost their lives in this incident. I recall your original video well and it's still haunting.

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Re: Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby Jim Hardin » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:22 am

The toxicology report indicted that those drugs would cause impairment but said nothing to the effect that they did cause impairment.

The 'cause' was that they didn't see each other and collided.

Don't be too quick to accept NTSB reports as scrolls handed down from the mountain.

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Re: Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby TimTaylor » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:21 pm

It would be impossible to say with certainty what effect the drugs in his system had on his judgement and actions, but it is reasonable to say what effect they probably had based on the statistical evidence. There is a reason we are not to fly when using certain medications and/or illegal drugs. It is also clear they did not see each other and ran together, but a 45 degree departure on takeoff followed by a climbing turn to downwind is not standard procedure. Had he climbed straight ahead to 400 feet before making a 90 degree left turn, maybe the accident would not have happened. We should all try to learn from these unfortunate events, not deflect blame.

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Re: Two Airplanes Colliding Over Nevada--Video

Postby Merlinspop » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:11 am

The report also states that the two aircraft that collided were #2 & 3 of a planned 3-plane (loose) formation flight, with the Savannah being #3. It doesn't go into whether the ever received training in formation flying.
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