Moderator: drseti
Where do the FARs say that?CTLSi wrote:It's acrobatic if you exceed the placarded loading limits of the aircraft.
But while you 'intended' to avoid the vulture, that maneuver was in the heat of the moment so it was 2d degree aerobatics and not aerobatics in the First Degree.MrMorden wrote:So a week ago when I *very* abruptly nosed down my airplane to avoid a turkey vulture, in a way that I found completely abnormal, I was briefly an aerobatic pilot? Cool!
I have never seen that put forth as a definition of "acrobatic" (or "aerobatic", which I think is the correct term).CTLSi wrote: It's acrobatic if you exceed the placarded loading limits of the aircraft.
By your definition, if you inadvertently encounter clear air turbulence in your CT, that exceed the placarded load limits, that is considered acrobatic?CTLSi wrote: . . . "It's acrobatic if you exceed the placarded loading limits of the aircraft." . . .
We'd see a lot of destroyed aerobatic airplanes if you needed to over-limit an airplane to do aerobatics in it.Merlinspop wrote:Where do the FARs say that?CTLSi wrote:It's acrobatic if you exceed the placarded loading limits of the aircraft.
Earlier in this thread I would have agreed with you, but having read through a handful of ACs and FAR paragraphs (none of which refer to exceeding placarded limits), I've found that the FAA uses "aerobatics" and "acrobatics" interchangibly. They should settle on one.3Dreaming wrote:Acrobatics is performed by a acrobats. Like the people who perform in the circus.
I hope you do not extend this boycott to helmets, because once I installed my DC headset into K-10 helmet it became too much trouble to take it out, and so I fly Skyhawks in a helmet now.drseti wrote:And I have a personal policy wherein if the pilot is wearing a parachute ... I don't fly with him or her!
I was watching a young lady assist a gentleman put on a parachute prior to a ride in a Stearman at The Flying Circus several years ago. Once he was rigged up, she began her briefing on using the parachute with, "If for any reason you find yourself outside of the airplane..."zaitcev wrote:I hope you do not extend this boycott to helmets, because once I installed my DC headset into K-10 helmet it became too much trouble to take it out, and so I fly Skyhawks in a helmet now.drseti wrote:And I have a personal policy wherein if the pilot is wearing a parachute ... I don't fly with him or her!
Also, in some cases chutes are mandated by the operator. I ran into it twice. Once it was in Japan. Apparently everyone is required to wear one in a glider over there for some reason. Other was when Don Simington was wearing one in his Texan (made me wear it too). Don, however, said: "When I order bail out, you bail, but I'll stay. I have too much put into this airplane."
In all honesty, if all pilots wore helmets it would likely save more lives than parachutes ever did. But they are uncomfortable and look dorky in GA aircraft, so it won't happen.drseti wrote:Pete, I wear a helmet on my motorcycles at all times. I haven't worn a helmet in an aircraft since my Air Force days. Would bring back memories, I'm sure!
Some dorkier than others:drseti wrote:We all look dorky anyway, Andy. Wht's the issue?
Because maybe...head trauma is far more likely than hypothermia or road rash in a plane crash?CTLSi wrote:Heck if you are gonna put on a helmet in the cockpit, why finish the job and stick on a wet suit for water landings, or maybe set of riding leathers for road burn...
