Flying Again Instead of Taxi

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Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby designrs » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:13 am

Flying again instead of taxi... kind of a humorous hypothetical question.

Say you land at a delta airport with a 6,000' runway. You land on the numbers and the tower requests (provides you with the courtesy) to taxi the full length of the runway for your most convenient turnoff. Assuming that you were willing to configure the plane properly, and calm wind, would it be a violation to go airborne again flying low for a bit instead of taxi? LOL

I know, highly non-standard, not recommended, and the tower is going to wonder what the hell you are doing... but would it be legal?

Of course, at an unpowered field, you could probably do whatever you desired.

Fire away... but please keep in mind that this question is whimsical.

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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby MrMorden » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:34 am

I think you need a takeoff clearance to break ground, even at 5 feet over the runway. Ground ops are not interchangeable with flight ops.

Just IMO, curious to hear other interpretations.
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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby designrs » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:39 am

You still own the runway and are communicating with tower, not ground, until clear of runway.

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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby designrs » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:41 am

Wonder too, how is a helicopter cleared? They fly when they taxi.

Granted, I wouldn't attempt to fly over or land on a taxiway (but even that can be granted by tower in some cases... say for a STOL taildragger.)

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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby FrankR » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:33 am

An instructor and I requested the option at a Delta, and landed three times on a 6000 ft runway. ATC told us they had one hand on the phone.

I found it to be excellent low altitude, low speed training.
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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby chavycha » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:16 pm

We have a real nice 8000'x150' runway over at KEUG (though they usually stick us GA guys on the 6000'er). I've done stop-and-goes over there at night to satisfy night currency requirements.

It would be fun to request a "series of three stop-and-goes" and just knock 'em all out on the big runway in one pass.
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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby FrankR » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:45 pm

Do three touch and go's, in one pass, quaily for currency?
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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby MrMorden » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:31 pm

FrankR wrote:Do three touch and go's, in one pass, quaily for currency?


If they are to a full stop they do.
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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby FrankR » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:52 pm

Full stop only required for tail wheel. 61.57(a)(1)(ii)

It would seem I don't need to stop.

Also, there's no definition of landing in 1.1 that requires a trip around the pattern.
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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby FastEddieB » Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:30 am

I believe 2 touch and goes, followed by a full stop, satisfy the currency requirements, even if done on one long runway.

Full stop for tailwheel or night currency only.
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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby FrankR » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:20 am

.25 on the Hobbs...
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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby CTLSi » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:19 pm

Your clearance was to land, then taxi not takeoff... You can request a takeoff clearance at that point, but you may instead be told to exit first then taxi-back and hold short for takeoff dependent on traffic.

If the runway is long and you want to exit further down the runway request a 'long landing' clearance. But don't do a long landing without the clearance, they won't like that...

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Re: Flying Again Instead of Taxi

Postby drseti » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:48 pm

The only case I know of that requires flying the traffic pattern for each landing is in satisfying the Sport Pilot Class D endorsement requirement:

61.325 (b) Operations at airports with an operating control tower to include three takeoffs and landings to a full stop, with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern, at an airport with an operating control tower.
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