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Sport NPRM

Postby mhaleem » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:10 am

Hello. Is this move (NPRM) to have dual hours count from Sport CFI's dead in the water??? It appears a number of other things have been placed on the FAA's priority list.
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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby Helen » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:41 am

It's apparently been integrated into a part 61 rewrite that was due out over a year ago.
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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby Helen » Fri May 13, 2016 6:57 am

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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby Merlinspop » Fri May 13, 2016 7:16 am

For sport pilots who want to earn a higher certificate level, the hours spent in sport pilot training would count toward aeronautical experience requirements for a recreational or private pilot certificate—a change AOPA and other aviation organizations petitioned the FAA to make as far back as January 2011. In addition, sport-pilot-only flight instructors would be allowed to provide training on control and maneuvering by reference to instruments to their sport pilot students under certain conditions.

Is this saying that training provided by a SP-CFI counts towards higher certificates?
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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby drseti » Fri May 13, 2016 10:40 am

That's how I read it, Bruce. If so, the NPRM is even more generous than what Helen, Paul Hamilton, others, and I asked for in our joint AOPA/EAA/NAFI petiton 5 years ago. In that one, we merely requested credit for instruction from a Subpart K CFI on tasks for which the SP and PP PTS requirements were the same.
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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby Helen » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:41 pm

The FAA gave an update on this at SNF. The part 61 rewrite is back on track and expected out within a year. It is expected to include a fix to the subpart K credit problem.
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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby hook_dupin » Thu May 03, 2018 9:28 am

Helen wrote:The FAA gave an update on this at SNF. The part 61 rewrite is back on track and expected out within a year. It is expected to include a fix to the subpart K credit problem.


I was told "8-10 weeks" from a source at a large Florida/Arizona aviation college. Given recent events, they aren't too excited about having their commercial students get 10 hours in Arrows. The language to have Technologically Advanced Aircraft time substitute for complex time for a commercial single engine rating was of importance to them.

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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby 3Dreaming » Thu May 03, 2018 11:00 am

hook_dupin wrote:
Helen wrote:The FAA gave an update on this at SNF. The part 61 rewrite is back on track and expected out within a year. It is expected to include a fix to the subpart K credit problem.


I was told "8-10 weeks" from a source at a large Florida/Arizona aviation college. Given recent events, they aren't too excited about having their commercial students get 10 hours in Arrows. The language to have Technologically Advanced Aircraft time substitute for complex time for a commercial single engine rating was of importance to them.


Especially now since you are not required to do part of your checkride in a complex aircraft.

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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby Hambone » Thu May 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Does the proposed NPRM allow students who train with a CFI-S without a medical apply the dual hours towards a further rating?

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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby drseti » Thu May 03, 2018 12:19 pm

That was in the petition we filed 5 years ago, Ham. We won't know which parts make it into the NPRM until FAA publishes it. But (fingers crossed), that was our intent.
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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby Hambone » Thu May 03, 2018 1:52 pm

Thanks, Paul.

That should be good news for a CFI-S without a medical!

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Re: Sport NPRM

Postby Helen » Tue May 08, 2018 6:41 pm

The medical has never been an issue with the exception of a CFI-S or CFI-A who needs to give instrument training. That's the only time the CFI needs a medical. Student getting training has nothing to do with the CFI having a medical or not.
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