3Dreaming wrote:VL Roberts wrote:3Dreaming wrote:Boy, this sure blew up yesterday.
There is no question that a sub part H flight instructor without a medical can give instruction in a light sport aircraft using only a drivers' license, and they must operate under the privileges of a sport pilot instructor. The regulations are pretty clear.
That was not the question though. The question is does the time count towards the private pilot certificate. The FAA ruling stated that training provided by a sub part K flight instructor does not count towards the private pilot certificate. A sub part H instructor is still a sub part H instructor even if thay are only exercising sub part K privileges. The time should count toward the private pilot certificate, because the instructor has received the required training in the eyes of the FAA to provide private pilot instruction unlike the sub part K instructor. There will be some training required for the private that they can not do because thay are only flying with a drivers' license.
Let's forget about Sport Pilot for a moment. Do you contend that a CFI w/o a medical can provide instruction to a student pilot pursuing a Private Pilot certificate so long as instruction takes place in a LSA?
That is not what I said. Instruction given to a sport pilot student by a sub part H flight instructor can be counted towards the private pilot certificate. This is dirrected to the OP original question.
As whether a sub part H flight instructor can give instruction to a private pilot student in a LSA without a medical. Just reading the FAR's and not looking at any legal rulings from the FAA I would say no. This is just like the fact that a student pilot must hold at least a third class medical to exercise the privileges regardles of the type of airplane they are flying, unless they are seeking sport pilot privileges in a light sport aircraft.
I think the need for a medical really comes down to what are the intensions of the student.
What it comes down to is what airman certificate is being applied for and what were the PRIVILEGES of the instructor that gave the instruction. If the instructor doesn't have the privilege of instructing for Private then no way would the hours subsequently count just based on a students intention.
I think Paul realizes that also based on his previous answer about Subpart H instructors w/o medicals instructing for Private.