Granted, a Martin 4-0-4 is not an LSA but this writeup in Wikipedia caught my attention. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_4-0-4
They list a TO distance to 50 feet as 1980!
That is mind boggling when looking at 44,900 lbs max TO weight.
I seem to recall an aquaintence who told me he could fly it from our 2200 foot field. He never did it.
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