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Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:58 am
by 3Dreaming
ShawnM wrote:As RTK stated it's in the cloud and accessible to you on any device you own.

I'm an Apple user and they give you a free 5 GB iCloud account for storage. I use it for important things like my logbook, my insurance cards, my AAA membership card, a pic of my drivers license, a pic of my EAA card, a pic of my pilot's license and a checklist for my airplane. That's it.

This way I ALWAYS have those items with me. I never worry about internet access because I can access it on my phone with cell service. And no I dont worry about cell service either because I dont fly in the backcountry. :mrgreen:

This way I always have my logbook with me.


I wouldn't necessarily call living in southern Illinois the backwoods, but I have been to several small airports where cell service was not very good and data was non existent.

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:01 am
by drseti
3Dreaming wrote:
I wouldn't necessarily call living in southern Illinois the backwoods


Certainly not, Tom. Maybe the front woods?

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:28 am
by dstclair
Most (All?) of the cloud storage products can be configured to work in an offline mode. For Google Drive, simply check the 'Offline' option in settings. Dropbox has a similar method.

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:57 am
by rsteele
3Dreaming wrote:
I wouldn't necessarily call living in southern Illinois the backwoods, but I have been to several small airports where cell service was not very good and data was non existent.


I grew up there and I'd sure call it the backwoods! When I visit my Dad, if it ain't Verizon, you ain't callin'. (to paraphrase the Boeing quip).
I did happen to be in the area for the Mt. Vernon Sport Aviation show a couple of years ago, and that was fun. Also one of the AOPA flying-in is going to be in Carbondale this year. I'd like to schedule a visit then, even though I now live within easy driving distance of their headquarters in Frederick Md.

Ron

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:01 pm
by 3Dreaming
rsteele wrote:
3Dreaming wrote:
I wouldn't necessarily call living in southern Illinois the backwoods, but I have been to several small airports where cell service was not very good and data was non existent.


I grew up there and I'd sure call it the backwoods! When I visit my Dad, if it ain't Verizon, you ain't callin'. (to paraphrase the Boeing quip).
I did happen to be in the area for the Mt. Vernon Sport Aviation show a couple of years ago, and that was fun. Also one of the AOPA flying-in is going to be in Carbondale this year. I'd like to schedule a visit then, even though I now live within easy driving distance of their headquarters in Frederick Md.

Ron


Southern Illinois means different things to different people. To some it is anything south of Chicago or interstate 80. I am well south of there, but still North of interstate 64 in the flat ground. My main point is airports tend to be in areas where there is less population, and cell coverage will not be as good. I am 35 miles Northeast of Mt Vernon.

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:41 pm
by rsteele
My father-in-law lived in Centralia, so I'm just a little familiar with the area around Mt. Vernon. If you get a chance to visit the Centralia airport the folks there are super nice. Last I knew they were training a bevy of Chinese students there so it was pretty busy. These poor souls stayed in a dump of prior run-down motel and where never seen around town at all. There was old school bus used to fairy them back and forth to the airport. A pretty grim existence for their stay in the US. I don't think the flight school cared much for the arrangement but the Chinese government was paying for it all. I'm sure it's worth if for them in the long run but it still seemed unreasonably harsh.

I grew up about 1 1/2 hours south of there, closer to Carbondale but a bit further west. I went to school in UofI in Urbana. Probably 75% of the students were from the greater Chicago area and they thought they were in Southern Ill while I thought I was in Norther Ill. So yea, it's all about perspective.

I've never flown in Illinois, other than a quick sight-seeing lesson out of Sparta. That was my first an only time to land a Warrior. I hope to fly my own plane there next summer or in the fall.

To stay somewhat on topic: Do the electronic log books provide a way to do BFR sign-offs? It seems like half the places I eat in now have you sign a screen with a finger to pay the bill. I'm wondering if the FAA will ever accept this. It seems like maybe some standards are needed.

Ron

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26 pm
by Warmi
I would say IL is basically two states .. Cook county and a few satellite counties and the rest of Illinois.
All other distinctions are rather non consequential :-)

Once we moved out of Cook county ( to Will county, just a few miles down the road ) - pretty much everything has changed ( for the better )

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:00 pm
by ShawnM
3Dreaming wrote:I wouldn't necessarily call living in southern Illinois the backwoods, but I have been to several small airports where cell service was not very good and data was non existent.


I guess I should have been a bit more clear, I wasn't calling where you live the backwoods. I was making a general statement that I've never flown into a grass strip in remote Alaska. That is what I meant about "backwoods". :mrgreen:

I have been to many small airports throughout Florida and Southern Georgia and have NEVER been without cell service. I do have Verizon if that matters.

Can you hear me now? :mrgreen:

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:08 pm
by Half Fast
Interesting.

The AC says a SP must carry “...logbook and other evidence...”

The FAR, however, says “...logbook or other evidence...”

A simple error in the AC, but it drastically changes the meaning.

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:47 pm
by TimTaylor
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Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:05 pm
by drseti
FARs take precedence over SBs.

Re: Sport Pilot & logbook requirements

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:11 pm
by Half Fast
drseti wrote:FARs take precedence over SBs.



Of course. Good example of why you have to read the actual FAR.