ADSB-B in and out

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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby Warmi » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:16 pm

For me the problem is not the hardware itself but someone who can install this stuff ( GDL 82) on my light sport ( not experimental ) plane ... :D
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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby drseti » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:21 pm

Warmi wrote:For me the problem is not the hardware itself but someone who can install this stuff ( GDL 82) on my light sport ( not experimental ) plane ... :D


After deciding exactly what you want to install, before you buy anything, you'd best contact the manufacturer and request an LoA. Once that's granted, go ahead and buy. Armed with the LoA, any avionics shop, A&P or LSRM should be able to do the installation. (Without the LoA, you'd be wasting your money by buying something that probably won't be approved.)
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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby Warmi » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:28 pm

drseti wrote:
Warmi wrote:For me the problem is not the hardware itself but someone who can install this stuff ( GDL 82) on my light sport ( not experimental ) plane ... :D


After deciding exactly what you want to install, before you buy anything, you'd best contact the manufacturer and request an LoA. Once that's granted, go ahead and buy. Armed with the LoA, any avionics shop, A&P or LSRM should be able to do the installation. (Without the LoA, you'd be wasting your money by buying something that probably won't be approved.)


I do have a blanket Loa from the manufacturer for pretty much all Garmin ADSB products ( it literally says “all models”) so it is just a matter of finding a shop - and that’s the problem, nobody wants to bother with such minor upgrade :D
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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby Warmi » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:41 pm

BTW .. I think TL Ultralight is pretty much the best case scenario when it comes to LOA and equipment related inquiries ...

For instance their MEL for ADSB equipment is simply :

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Can't beat that :D
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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby ShawnM » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:05 pm

Warmi wrote:I do have a blanket Loa from the manufacturer for pretty much all Garmin ADSB products ( it literally says “all models”) so it is just a matter of finding a shop - and that’s the problem, nobody wants to bother with such minor upgrade :D


How do they consider this a "minor upgrade"? You are not "upgrading" anything. They would be installing new avionics equipment. And making money in the process. You mean you can't find an avionics shop that wants to take your money? This is the craziest thing I've ever heard. :mrgreen:

PS - you might want to skip #14, just sayin'

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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby Warmi » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:10 pm

So far , the shops I been talking to work on upgrading certified planes with price tags ranging from 50k up ... this sort of work I need is a waste of time for them. I need to find some smaller operation , somebody like 3Dreaming but who is willing to install avionics :D
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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby MrMorden » Tue May 01, 2018 7:18 am

Warmi wrote:BTW .. I think TL Ultralight is pretty much the best case scenario when it comes to LOA and equipment related inquiries ...

For instance their MEL for ADSB equipment is simply :

MEL.jpg

Can't beat that :D


Sure you can...uAvionix is not on the list! :mrgreen:
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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby Wm.Ince » Tue May 01, 2018 11:48 am

MrMorden wrote:
Warmi wrote:BTW .. I think TL Ultralight is pretty much the best case scenario when it comes to LOA and equipment related inquiries ...
For instance their MEL for ADSB equipment is simply :
MEL.jpg
Can't beat that :D

Sure you can...uAvionix is not on the list! :mrgreen:

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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby Warmi » Tue May 01, 2018 11:52 am

Well .... ok :D , I would have to send a letter to TL Ultralight to get uAvionix on the list - no problem at all .. and the main difference would be that once it gets on that list it would be available to everyone - which , to my understanding, is not the case with many other manufacturers.
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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby MrMorden » Tue May 01, 2018 1:08 pm

Warmi wrote:Well .... ok :D , I would have to send a letter to TL Ultralight to get uAvionix on the list - no problem at all .. and the main difference would be that once it gets on that list it would be available to everyone - which , to my understanding, is not the case with many other manufacturers.


That part is true, there are very few "blanket approvals" for the Flight Design airplanes, for example. And even for those you still have to submit an MRA (major repair or alteration) form to FD for their files, for which they'll charge you $75.

Sounds like TL is doing it right, from a customer perspective.
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Re: ADSB-B in and out

Postby rsteele » Tue May 01, 2018 1:20 pm

Warmi wrote:So far , the shops I been talking to work on upgrading certified planes with price tags ranging from 50k up ... this sort of work I need is a waste of time for them. I need to find some smaller operation , somebody like 3Dreaming but who is willing to install avionics :D


Try some places as smaller fields down state a bit. Check with the local EAA chapter. They should either have someone who can do the work or know an A&P that's happy to work on EAB's. Such a person would probably be happy to work on an LSA also. Some of these people are part timers that have "real" jobs and do this sort of work for flying money, but that doesn't mean they down't know what they are about.


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