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I'm trying to fill out a 8500-8 (I know, not required for sport pilots) and it asks for your first/last name, but the field is not editable. It's shaded out. I tried in 3 different browsers. Any idea what I I am doing wrong?
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Yeah I will be getting a private. All LSA with tricycle gear are too expensive and I'm not interested in a legacy taildragger.
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pjcampbell wrote:Yeah I will be getting a private. All LSA with tricycle gear are too expensive and I'm not interested in a legacy taildragger.

there is always the Ercoupe.... "Legacy" Tri-Gear...... Cheap

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That is cool - I didn't realize it was a tricycle gear. It must be the only Part 23 certified LSA that is tricycle gear, right?

I figured out the problem with the online 8500-8 form. You have to click on "Account" -> "My account", then re-submit your name. It wants to auto fill this info, but for some reason it couldn't find it, even though it was already there.
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Ercoupe is not a part 23 airplane. It is certified under part 4A of the CAR's. This pre-dates the FAA and part 23.

There was also a STC for a tricycle gear conversion for the Piper J3.
A Quicksilver GT500 is another. It is certified under CFR 21.24 Primary category.
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here is a list of the standard category aircraft that are LSA Compliant....... and a list of some that are not

https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-com ... ft_listing

as you can see the Ercoupe 415-C and 415-CD would be LSA Compliant if unaltered, whereas the the 415-D, 415-E, 415F1, 415FA1 and M10 are not LSA Compliant

The ones that were non-compliant at birth can never be made compliant

The ones that were compliant at birth may have been altered to make them non-compliant (STC's etc) and can never be brought back into compliance
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azsportpilot wrote:here is a list of the standard category aircraft that are LSA Compliant....... and a list of some that are not

https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-com ... ft_listing
Any aircraft that meets the CFR 1.1 definition of a light sport aircraft is a light sport aircraft, regardless of the aircraft's certification.
Here is the FAA's list. https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/lig ... Models.pdf
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looks like both lists have the same info

keep in mind some of these models were under-powered and STC's to retrofit a more powerful motor were popular

some of these STC's increased the useful load, and as a result the gross weight

these "improvements" would make that particular aircraft non-compliant
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azsportpilot wrote:looks like both lists have the same info

keep in mind some of these models were under-powered and STC's to retrofit a more powerful motor were popular

some of these STC's increased the useful load, and as a result the gross weight

these "improvements" would make that particular aircraft non-compliant
When dealing with a classic LSA it is always a good idea to get the FAA CD on the particular aircraft. A while back there was a fellow who had a Taylorcraft that once had controllable pitch prop. Even though the airplane appeared to be LSA the records proved otherwise because of a propeller installed sometime in the 1950's.
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pjcampbell wrote:I'm trying to fill out a 8500-8 (I know, not required for sport pilots) and it asks for your first/last name, but the field is not editable. It's shaded out. I tried in 3 different browsers. Any idea what I I am doing wrong?
I had to establish an account on FAA MEDXPRESS to complete and submit the form. My memory is kind of fuzzy, but if I recall it was possible to retrieve a facsimile of that form, but not possible to fill it in without going through MEDXPRESS.
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thanks happydan

I figured out the problem with the online 8500-8 form. I had to click on "Account" -> "My account", then re-submit your name. It wants to auto fill this info, but for some reason it couldn't find it, even though it was already there. Re-submitting it seemed to fix the problem.
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