I'm still playing with it. The CTSW is very slippery and doesn't slow down very readily. If I held 90kt to short final I don't really see being able to make a good spot landing. Maybe the 162 slows better than the CT, or maybe I'm just "doing it wrong." As I said, I'm still experimenting, and should have a lot of practice time tomorrow.SportPilot wrote:Andy, I saw your post on the other forum about practicing 90 knot patterns. I did the same thing yesterday and made 12 touch and goes on runway 29 at GVL. In the SkyCatcher, I just throttled back to around 2100 rpm +/- and zero flaps and held that until on short final. Then I throttled back more to slow down and started adding flaps. I made some landings with no flaps, full flaps, and 2 notches of flaps. This is pretty simple if you use elevator to control altitude and throttle to control speed.
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Andy Walker
Athens, GA
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2007 Flight Design CTSW E-LSA
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Just never so low that ground effect enters into it!
Typically said to start about one wingspan above the ground.
Typically said to start about one wingspan above the ground.
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I was pretty sure you and Andy both knew about getting all the slowing down done before hitting ground effect.
Still thought it was worth mentioning for the newbie and potential pilots that might be following along.
Still thought it was worth mentioning for the newbie and potential pilots that might be following along.
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Andy, just remember the guy in front of you is also going to effect how much you have to slow down. You may not be able to carry 90 until short final anyway.
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That sucks, but I hope the procedure is completely successful and recovery is swift and full.
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Glad to hear that, good luck with your surgery.SportPilot wrote: . . . Looks like I will get a full refund. I won't know until next week.
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I have decided very recently that I might want to go to Oshkosh for the very first time this year. I am thinking of taking an aviation friend my age or my brother there with me. Hopefully I could take a full week off from work if possible, but I probably might stay for a few days at least maybe.
Oh boy, I have so much to plan with so little time! I have never been to Airventure before so I am not so sure how to get started. Of course, I am not a pilot, so I am thinking of taking a commercial airline to a nearby commercial service airport and renting a car and driving to Airventure. Also, I think I would want to rent a hotel room instead of camping out, but not too sure on if I should rent a room or camp at Oshkosh. What do you guys suggest?
Primarily, I am interested in seeing LSAs, going to interesting seminars, and hearing any updates on GAPPA or PBOR2.
Oh boy, I have so much to plan with so little time! I have never been to Airventure before so I am not so sure how to get started. Of course, I am not a pilot, so I am thinking of taking a commercial airline to a nearby commercial service airport and renting a car and driving to Airventure. Also, I think I would want to rent a hotel room instead of camping out, but not too sure on if I should rent a room or camp at Oshkosh. What do you guys suggest?
Primarily, I am interested in seeing LSAs, going to interesting seminars, and hearing any updates on GAPPA or PBOR2.
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Jeez, good luck! Hopefully they are minor and you'll be back on your feet and under wing soon.SportPilot wrote:Looks like I will be having two unrelated surgeries. Good news is, I got my refund from EAA.Wm.Ince wrote:Glad to hear that, good luck with your surgery.SportPilot wrote: . . . Looks like I will get a full refund. I won't know until next week.
Andy Walker
Athens, GA
Sport Pilot ASEL, LSRI
2007 Flight Design CTSW E-LSA
Athens, GA
Sport Pilot ASEL, LSRI
2007 Flight Design CTSW E-LSA
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BTW, regarding the 90kt Fisk approach:
I had a long talk with my buddy who I'll be flying in with (he's flying a Waiex - Y-tailed Sonex), he's done it many times. His guidance is that once you are in line behind another aircraft, you can pretty much ignore the 90kt speed, and instead concentrate on maintaining the 1/2 mile separation from the airplane ahead of you. If the guy ahead of you is doing 75kt, so are you. If he's doing 100kt, so are you (if you can). The 1/2 mile spacing is more important that the speed, since it's necessary for landing.
He also said that once you have your landing spot given to you on downwind or long final, you manage your own descent and approach speed, so you don't really have to maintain the 90kt until the last possible moment. I'll probably keep my speed up more than normal to not crowd the planes behind me, but I won't have to have the hammer down until the last moment like I feared.
More "Secrets of Oshkosh" revealed!
I had a long talk with my buddy who I'll be flying in with (he's flying a Waiex - Y-tailed Sonex), he's done it many times. His guidance is that once you are in line behind another aircraft, you can pretty much ignore the 90kt speed, and instead concentrate on maintaining the 1/2 mile separation from the airplane ahead of you. If the guy ahead of you is doing 75kt, so are you. If he's doing 100kt, so are you (if you can). The 1/2 mile spacing is more important that the speed, since it's necessary for landing.
He also said that once you have your landing spot given to you on downwind or long final, you manage your own descent and approach speed, so you don't really have to maintain the 90kt until the last possible moment. I'll probably keep my speed up more than normal to not crowd the planes behind me, but I won't have to have the hammer down until the last moment like I feared.
More "Secrets of Oshkosh" revealed!
Andy Walker
Athens, GA
Sport Pilot ASEL, LSRI
2007 Flight Design CTSW E-LSA
Athens, GA
Sport Pilot ASEL, LSRI
2007 Flight Design CTSW E-LSA