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MrMorden wrote:
Now for the million dollar question...after you came up with your valve fix, at the end of that leg of the ferry...did you take off again with the valve in that condition?
I was just thinking about this, more or less.
It was over 30 years ago, so if I didn't have the photo to remind me, I don't know if I'd even remember it at all.
What I was thinking about was whether I accomplished the fix in the air or on the ground - I really don't remember.
But since you asked such a high value question, I almost certainly finished the flight with the jury-rigged fix. Probably not the Most Conservative Action, but ferry pilots tend to be the "can do" type.
One more ferry incident (actually two related to each other) when I have time later.
I know you preach "most conservative action" pretty hard, and I agree in a lot of cases, but I also don't mind some "calculated risk" mixed in. When making safety decisions I usually play the "what if" game and try to imagine the worst case I can reasonably imagine for the given circumstances (sure the wings could come off or you could have a midair, but those kinds of risks are 'baked into' aviation). If the worst case still leaves me with a reasonable out, I will consider that course.
Because, of course...the most conservative course is not to fly. Ever.
Andy Walker
Athens, GA
Sport Pilot ASEL, LSRI
2007 Flight Design CTSW E-LSA
Merlinspop wrote:Bill Cox writes a lot of stories from his overseas delivery gigs. I have fuzzy recall of a story about a ferry flight over the Pacific where everything was going great, until he encountered a significant headwind...AFTER he passed the point of no return. He made it, but on fumes.
There was a cross-Atlantic ferry flight a few years ago (I think it was a Cirrus), where the Pilot dead sticked it into an airport in Ireland.
Merlinspop wrote:Bill Cox writes a lot of stories from his overseas delivery gigs. I have fuzzy recall of a story about a ferry flight over the Pacific where everything was going great, until he encountered a significant headwind...AFTER he passed the point of no return. He made it, but on fumes.
There was a cross-Atlantic ferry flight a few years ago (I think it was a Cirrus), where the Pilot dead sticked it into an airport in Ireland.
Maybe that's the story I read. Either way, ferry flying is an entirely different beast and not for the faint of heart. Another report I read a bit ago said the Cirrus went in with 80 gallons of fuel still in a ferry tank that he couldn't get to. I bet he has some choice words for the balky valve (or whatever it was) during the last hour or so of that flight.
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I am amazed he had the presence of mind to save his GoPro camera! I guess SD cards are not affected by salt water they way film or magnetic tape may be.
c162pilot wrote:I am amazed he had the presence of mind to save his GoPro camera! I guess SD cards are not affected by salt water they way film or magnetic tape may be.
GoPro's are typically waterproof when in their standard cases.
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c162pilot wrote:I am amazed he had the presence of mind to save his GoPro camera! I guess SD cards are not affected by salt water they way film or magnetic tape may be.
CYA in case the insurance company tried to claim he screwed up?
c162pilot wrote:I am amazed he had the presence of mind to save his GoPro camera! I guess SD cards are not affected by salt water they way film or magnetic tape may be.
CYA in case the insurance company tried to claim he screwed up?
I think insurance has to pay even for screw ups. They can drop your coverage but they can't deny the claim, because one of the points of insurance is to cover mistakes by the pilot. It would suck if auto insurance refused to pay whenever it was your fault...
Andy Walker
Athens, GA
Sport Pilot ASEL, LSRI
2007 Flight Design CTSW E-LSA
What I was wondering is: Why the parachute is not designed to be detached of the aircraft when "landed"? Obviously the wind in the parachute is inconvinient once landed as we can see.
That guy was very lucky not to be trapped below when the airplane turned around at (2:30) because of the parachute (I guess).
BrianL99 wrote:Out of fuel, over the ocean. You would think a professional ferry pilot with the latest and greatest equipment, could manage fuel.
HAPPYDAN wrote:In my inexperienced opinion, that BRS might be something worth investing in, especially for a NOOB. Do insurance companies offer any discounts?
I think it's a wash for them. Yes, they enhance safety...but the airplane is rarely salvageable after a deployment. So they only save the company money on relatively cheap liability and medical payments, not the expensive hull coverage.
Andy Walker
Athens, GA
Sport Pilot ASEL, LSRI
2007 Flight Design CTSW E-LSA
