New rule, is the airport closed to you?

[CharlieTango]

read rogher heller's blog.

http://www.ctflyer.com/entry.php?6-Want ... -Read-this

[flyboy2007]

I just reviewed the downloaded FAA 5190.6B and could find no direct mention of the prohibitions stated.

There are some allegations in their Through The Fence TTF security provisions,
but nothing concise.
Hopefully this will get direct attention from EAA and AOPA as they are about are only legislation we have as a sport pilot group.

Happy flying!!!!! John

[AZPilot]

How's that "Hoax and Chains" working out for everyone?

[Cub flyer]

My opinion is the county or state owned airports with no scheduled service should be setup like this.

Federal funding available only to maintain and construct the runway and parallel taxiways.

Anyone can purchase private property around the above and as long as what they build meets the height restrictions and the taxiway stub they build is to spec they can do whatever they want. Similar to a driveway permit. Commercial and private.

Want to open a FBO. Sure. T hangars. Go ahead. but it's all private funding. Sell fuel. Meet the fire marshal rules and labor and industry depending on state.

Forget the county and state funded T hangars, Ramps, terminals and fuel farms. Let private enterprise in to meet the demand. Sell them off to private owners.

My little airport is private owned and operated but public use. I have to compete with other local airports that get government money at 5% local share and charge rates that wouldn't even meet my payments to get fuel flows up and 100% hangar occupancy. With much better infrastructure than I could ever build.

As a airport owner I have to deal with FAA,TSA,State BOA, PENN DOT, FCC, drug enforcement, school taxes, local taxes, banks, neighbors, insurance, etc.

Subject to inspections, fees and taxes.

The county owned airports around me are failing or in rough financial shape even though the state has poured millions into them. T hangars, fuel farms, terminals, approaches, big runway projects.

I say treat the runway like a highway and allow access for private business in a similar fashion. Forget the fence. It only takes a pickup truck a few seconds to get through that.

Prop locks are the best security measure. Throttle locks are stupid because you have to break in to find it. The bright colored prop lock is a visual deterrent. Much cheaper than a fence with electric gates and barbed wire.

Our state has a property tax reimbursement program. It only covers 125 feet on each side of runway centerline and a straight line the width of the wingspan of our largest airplane from the ramp to the runway at the closest point. They figure the square footage and then divide it out of the tax bill after the building values have been subtracted. A working airport has a lot more land tied up due to airspace restrictions than that.
No other airport land is eligible.

Almost not worth the paperwork. This value if the airport is closed within 10 years has to be paid back double.

[Doss79]

WHERE IS THE MOGAS RESTRICTION??? I just bought an EAA autofuel STC! Come on!

[CharlieTango]

here is the article that started this discussion

http://www.pacificflyer.com/2009/12/avi ... changes-3/

i can't find the restrictions in the new rule

[drseti]

WHERE IS THE MOGAS RESTRICTION???

As I read this, there's nothing in the proposed Airport Compliance Manual to limit the use of mogas. The most this can do is limit its sale at publicly funded airports. This may impact availability, but not the legality of operating under a mogas STC.

[Cub flyer]

I wonder why they are limiting mogas.

If you buy it from a supplier as off road and the excise taxes are paid when purchased it is still supporting aviation interests.

Plus the airport is able to set the price level.