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Hambone
Joined: 07 Jan 2011
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Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:45 am Post subject: Instructor/student contract |
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Here's a hypothetical scenario.
I have a 55 year old male student. Despite 40+ hours of instruction, I finally come to the conclusion that, despite my superior instruction(!), he will never be completely safe, nor will he be able to pass a checkride. This has been confirmed by a fellow instructor.
Now what do I do? He has probably paid $5,000+ by this stage.
Can this situation be covered by a contract before training starts?
Are some instructors screening potential students before enrolling them in a course of training?
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RyanShort1
Joined: 17 Aug 2010
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Location: San Antonio, TX
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I don't know, but due to a recent enlightenment, I'm personally looking strongly at some sort of agreement before training begins...
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jnmeade
Joined: 30 Nov 2010
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Location: Iowa
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I never worried about a contract. I always told them up front that when they go their license was not set in stone. If I got to the normal solo time and the student was not up to speed, I'd have another instructor fly with him. If I didn't want to take him further or thought he wouldn't make it, I'd tell him then. Frequent status reports and open communication should handle it, I'd think. Uncomfortable, no doubt. |
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tu16
Joined: 18 Feb 2010
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Location: Bellevue, WA
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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On my first lesson I talked to my CFI and asked him to tell me upfront and honestly if at some point in the training he decides I'm not going to cut it. Considering some potential for conflict of interest for the school I think I was actually asking for a favor.
I'd think many students should feel the same and be open to the idea that a certificate is not a guaranteed outcome, especially for "not-spring-chickens-anymore" and actually would appreciate your honest feedback. (At least people with European background should... :) )
Nothing prevents him from keeping trying - and enjoying dual flights well into 120hrs :) if expectations are set correctly. (If my theory is correct he may actually succeed in flying consistently and safely by 120th hr.... :) ) |
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goinaround
Joined: 18 Apr 2010
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| Here's another situation, I'm 55yo and I have 60 hrs and have soloed 4 different aircraft this time around and have met all requirements except checkride signoff. When might I expect the flight school to stepup and say(I have brought this up, as in we need to work on this) I schedule and there are always issues, 2 different schools and too many instructors to count. See my post under training. I think I am 1 you lost. |
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bshort
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Location: Ca
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goinaround
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[quote="bshort"]I think the issue here could be those schools, FBO's, CFI's that KNOW the student is not up to snuff, but continue to milk the student for every last training dol
As I said I have soloed 4 different aircraft in the last 18 months, But I won't finish because that isn't what it's about. Most of the instructors I've flown with could fly with you in the am and if you come back in the afternoon they would ask what you want to work on. |
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bshort
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