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Doss79



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 108
Location: San Antonio, Tx

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:06 am    Post subject: Transponder needed for Class D airport?  

Is a transponder needed for a Cub operating at a Class D airport? I thought it was only for Class B and C?
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rsteele



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Posts: 261

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject:  

I'm sure no expert, but it looks to me like it's possible only if the plane has no engine driven electrical system, and never had one. You have to contact the tower 1 hour (minimum) before entering the air space to receive directions on when and where to operate. This can be by radio or phone. I'd call the tower where I was headed to just to make sure.

(summarized from the EAA web site, it's a full page discussion)

Ron
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mikeproctor



Joined: 03 Dec 2006
Posts: 14

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject:  

rsteele wrote: I'm sure no expert, but it looks to me like it's possible only if the plane has no engine driven electrical system, and never had one. You have to contact the tower 1 hour (minimum) before entering the air space to receive directions on when and where to operate. This can be by radio or phone. I'd call the tower where I was headed to just to make sure.

(summarized from the EAA web site, it's a full page discussion)

Ron

I think the EEA article is referring to operating at a class D that is under a mode C veil. I don't think a transponder is required to operate in class D airspace by itself. You do need a radio though or make prior arrangements with the tower before entering the airspace.
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CTflyer



Joined: 28 Mar 2006
Posts: 363
Location: eastern Connecticut

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject:  

Well, per AOPA, no transponder required in D:

"Class D airspace surrounds airports with operational control towers without Class B or C airspace, and it is generally depicted as a single cylinder. Two-way radio communications are required; a transponder/encoder is not. When the tower is not in operation, the airspace is reclassified as Class E or G airspace."

Here's the source:

http://flighttraining.aopa.org/ft_magazine/special/0306_legal.cfm

Here's a memory aid:

A - Altitude (18,000' or higher)
B - BIG; "Boeing country"
C - Communicated permission required
D - Dialog only; no permission required - just dialog with tower
E - Everywhere else that's controlled
G - Go! - no controls

Hope this helps.
Tom
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tadel001



Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 251

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject:  

no. not required.
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tech10002



Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Posts: 37
Location: Lexington, Ky

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject:  

I fly out of class D airspace that is both adjacent and underneath busy class C, and we aren't required to have a transponder, though we always squawk VFR. There's a little pie cut so we can depart the airport without talking to departure. The class C is so close that you could throw a rock from the approach end of runway 14 and be violating KSDF class C. LOL
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Doss79



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 108
Location: San Antonio, Tx

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject:  

Thank you guys. That's what I ended up finding out, too.
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